The Skinbasket Weighs in on New Redskins Nicknames

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Serious question, do Scandinavians really react well to being called Vikings?

[RashanGary]

Black people were enslaved and victims of horrible mistreatment. Native Americans were victims of a near genocide. Maybe we should change the Panthers name to the Carolina Niggers? Maybe the San Francisco faggots? These are complimentary terms coming from the likes of Dan Schnieder, no?

Fuck that, just rename your stupid team and shut up.

[MadtownPacker]

LA's next expansion team should be the brownskins, and they could all come on to the field in low riders with murals painted on the back shooting pistols in the air.

As a Brownskin I must say I find nothing offensive about this.

[MadtownPacker]

Black people were enslaved and victims of horrible mistreatment. Native Americans were victims of a near genocide. Maybe we should change the Panthers name to the Carolina Niggers? Maybe the San Francisco faggots? These are complimentary terms coming from the likes of Dan Schnieder, no?

Fuck that, just rename your stupid team and shut up.

Stupid. It's just a name of a sports team. What about all those towns in Wisconsin that have Native American names, you gonna rename them too?

[Pugger]

And I of Irish descent have no issues with Notre Dame and that silly leprechaun as their mascot.

[pbmax]

Black people were enslaved and victims of horrible mistreatment. Native Americans were victims of a near genocide. Maybe we should change the Panthers name to the Carolina Niggers? Maybe the San Francisco faggots? These are complimentary terms coming from the likes of Dan Schnieder, no?

Fuck that, just rename your stupid team and shut up.

C'mon JH. Keep it civil. There is disagreement in this thread but so far we have managed to keep it on an even keel.

[RashanGary]

Stupid. It's just a name of a sports team. What about all those towns in Wisconsin that have Native American names, you gonna rename them too?

There are a lot of native people who consider that word as offensive as nigger or faggot. Are they stupid for being offended by racial slurs?

It's just the name of a sports team. Change it.

[RashanGary]

C'mon JH. Keep it civil. There is disagreement in this thread but so far we have managed to keep it on an even keel.

It's the reality. White-folk nearly succeeded in killing their entire race of people. I guess there are so few of them that using slurs against native people sounds kind of cute and funny -vs- saying nigger in public where a black man might punch you in your stupid face. Just because they're mostly dead and silent doesn't mean the reality of how they feel should be ignored.

[MadtownPacker]

And I of Irish descent have no issues with Notre Dame and that silly leprechaun as their mascot.

How about always being portrayed as drunk and ready to brawl?

[MadtownPacker]

There are a lot of native people who consider that word as offensive as nigger or faggot. Are they stupid for being offended by racial slurs?

It's just the name of a sports team. Change it.

Agreed that some are likely highly offended but if there was a US Swimming team called "The Wetbacks" I would laugh and not raise a fuss. That doesnt make me stupid either so I guess it is just a matter of personal feelings.

[RashanGary]

Agreed that some are likely highly offended but if there was a US Swimming team called "The Wetbacks" I would laugh and not raise a fuss. That doesnt make me stupid either so I guess it is just a matter of personal feelings.

I get it. I just think we're so immune to slurs against native people, it would help to bring in some other slurs we're not so immune to. Nigger was a common word once upon a time. That word is just a matter of personal feelings too. All words are. Good for the black people in our country, there were enough to stand up and make it so it's a word nobody dares say anymore. Now it's the natives turn. It's the name of a football team not his fucking child. Change it.

[Joemailman]

Stupid. It's just a name of a sports team. What about all those towns in Wisconsin that have Native American names, you gonna rename them too?

I only have a problem with the ones that are racial slurs. It might be worth noting that George Preston Marshall, who changed the name of the team from Braves to Redskins, did not have a great record on racial policy. His was the last NFL team to integrate, and by more than a decade. In fact, it wasn't until the Kennedy administration threatened to disallow them from playing in the new Washington stadium, which was paid for by tax dollars, that he signed a black player. So it's certainly possible the name Redskins was chosen because it was a racial slur, not despite it. You can have a team name that honors native American heritage without having a controversy like this. They should change it.

[RashanGary]

My thoughts have changed over the years. I probably wouldnt have cared three years ago, but i was listening to a black guy on the radio say the native americans felt it was a slur and I thought, "why fight so hard to keep a name people feel slurred by."

If you're so in love with the native culture, bring in a native ownership party and name it something that group feels honors its people or at least ask first. They don't care. Theyd change it if they cared about the native culture. This is about a powerful man wanting to do what he wants to do and a group of people using the power in their numbers to establish respect. Im rooting for the natives, and honestly, haha to the people who, despite their mpney, are still ruled by the power of people. Get in line. iIf you dont like our society, go somewhere you like better.

If Schneider gets away with it, good for him, but Im rooting for the natives and Ill get a laugh if Schneider throws a little hissy fit and sells his team

[Pugger]

How about always being portrayed as drunk and ready to brawl?

I don't mind having a drink or 3 but I'm not much of a brawler.

[mraynrand]

It's just the name of a sports team. Change it.

That's a good point. In the grand scheme of things, it's really a small matter.

Of course there are other considerations driving activists to change names, or for people to resist the change but they are ideological and/or political.