Bulaga hurt?

[Joemailman]

The "winner" due to the Bulaga injury (and continued absence of Sherrod) is probably Greg Van Roten. I thought he might be the odd man out this year, but with Barclay now probably taking more reps at Tackle, his role should become more prominent. The top 8 now are probably EDS, Lang, Sitton, Van Roten, Bakhtiari, Datko, Newhouse and Barclay. They might keep 9 if Sherrod is on the roster.

[3irty1]

Losing Bulaga sucks pretty hard but what REALLY sucks is when the next tackle goes down. Season hasn't even started yet. We'll probably get to see a Bandaid on top of a bandaid on top of a premium line position at some point.

[wist43]

As much as I want top agree with things you say, you lose all credibility saying we will pick in the top ten

Without Rodgers, we're better than a bottom 10 team??

We're a QB driven team - so much so that even our defense is built, to whatever extent, on the assumption that our offense is going to get us off to an early and big lead; hence, no need to play run defense, right??

What does this team look like with Graham Harrell, BJ Coleman, or Vince Young under center??

We can't run the ball, we can't stop the run, and our defense is prone to mind-numbing breakdowns that send Pop Warner turning over in his grave.

No, make no mistake - if Rodgers went down week 1, I don't see any way we could even go 8-8.

[Joemailman]

I think most NFL teams are in danger of being bottom 10 if they lose their starting QB for an extended period of time.

[wist43]

I think most NFL teams are in danger of being bottom 10 if they lose their starting QB for an extended period of time.

I agree... don't know why my saying that would send the homers into a tizzy.

Unless they truly believe that every player that dons the G&G really is a HOF'er.

Rodgers for the Packers, even moreso than QB's for other teams, masks a lot of our shortcomings - even as I mentioned on defense. Take Rodgers out of the equation, and you have a very pedestrian roster, with a lot of problems on the OL and defense.

The rest of the roster would be exposed for what it is if Rodgers went down - and MM wouldn't be able to coach and gameplan his way around it, there simply isn't enough talent in other areas of the roster.

[Bossman641]

Without Rodgers, we're better than a bottom 10 team??

We're a QB driven team - so much so that even our defense is built, to whatever extent, on the assumption that our offense is going to get us off to an early and big lead; hence, no need to play run defense, right??

What does this team look like with Graham Harrell, BJ Coleman, or Vince Young under center??

We can't run the ball, we can't stop the run, and our defense is prone to mind-numbing breakdowns that send Pop Warner turning over in his grave.

No, make no mistake - if Rodgers went down week 1, I don't see any way we could even go 8-8.

Sorry, my mistake reading your post. I thought you had said it was a foregone conclusion Rodgers was going to get injured and we'd be drafting in the top ten. I agree with you that if Rodgers were to go down week 1 we'd be picking top 10..but I think that's true for every team in the league as well.

[denverYooper]

Another take on Bakhitiari from Doug Farrar: http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/05/the-all...y-left-tackle/

Interesting quote:

As Greg Cosell of NFL Films and ESPN’s NFL Matchup recently told me, Bakhtiari plays shorter than he is – he’s 6-foot-4 and 300 pounds, but he comes off the ball like a 6-foot-2 guy, because he tends to bend at the waist at times. However, I would also say that he plays heavier than he is – because he has an excellent understanding of leverage, he’s able to move people in ways you’d expect of a man 25 pounds heavier.

[hoosier]

Another take on Bakhitiari from Doug Farrar: http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/05/the-all...y-left-tackle/

Interesting quote:

As Greg Cosell of NFL Films and ESPN’s NFL Matchup recently told me, Bakhtiari plays shorter than he is – he’s 6-foot-4 and 300 pounds, but he comes off the ball like a 6-foot-2 guy, because he tends to bend at the waist at times. However, I would also say that he plays heavier than he is – because he has an excellent understanding of leverage, he’s able to move people in ways you’d expect of a man 25 pounds heavier.

Translation: looks like Manute Bol, plays like Robert "Tractor" Traylor.

[pbmax]

I'm just saying that you don't know a damn thing until real game conditions.

Its entirely possible I posted otherwise in 2009 because I tend to root for the best athletes to outright win positions as it helps the overall talent level of the team (see Sherrod Derek, or McMillan, Jerome).

But as I recall, Barbre had trouble all camp long and in preseason too. His best practices were always in shorts.

The one that got away is Giacomini, who starts and apparently plays well for the Seahawks at RT.

[pbmax]

I read that article too. Made me feel a little better, but maybe that's McGinn's job. We can only wait and see. Like most have said, at least they have about a month to get this fixed.

We're all tired of the o-line woes, year after year. The shuffling of lineman in the off-season gave a very small sense of hope, but now, we're just right back to where we have been.

Credit to you pitt, you called it that the Bulaga injury would reshuffle players to their strengths, at least Datko. But it was even better in some ways.

Barclay got some first team reps at RT (still played C and G), Datko got 2nd team reps at LT and GVR was the primary backup center.

[Joemailman]

MM says no final decision made yet on Bulaga. Still waiting for diagnosis.

Jordy out rest of TC. Hope to have him for start of season. Had procedure done on his knee.

[Joemailman]

Its entirely possible I posted otherwise in 2009 because I tend to root for the best athletes to outright win positions as it helps the overall talent level of the team (see Sherrod Derek, or McMillan, Jerome).

But as I recall, Barbre had trouble all camp long and in preseason too. His best practices were always in shorts.

The one that got away is Giacomini, who starts and apparently plays well for the Seahawks at RT.

Right. My recollection is that Barbre was basically anointed the starting RT based on OTA's. His struggles in preseason were somewhat overshadowed by Rodgers' lights out performance in preseason games. I remember being surprised that they gave up on Giaco as early as they did.

[Zool]

Translation: looks like Manute Bol, plays like Robert "Tractor" Traylor.

All Manute Bol references need to be bumped

[Smidgeon]

Time to resurrect the FUCK!!!! thread.

I miss the days of the Barnett ACL tear thread...

[George Cumby]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...218460911.html

McGinn with an upbeat, "the sky is not falling article. That's what I like about McGinn. He tries to offer a different perspective on things. And he's often right.

WTF is wrong with McGinn?

He's all happy and shit.