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  • #91
    Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    He was signed by New Orleans in April of this year and released August 19th, then picked up for a cup of coffee by San Fran until final cut-down.
    Well, this does make a difference. Young wasn't picked over Seneca as TT was furiously rifling through the neighbor's trash.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
      Someone tell me about the PS QB from Wis we signed? any handy scouting reports available?
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      OVERVIEW
      Tolzien possesses the football IQ, toughness and enough ability to find a home in the NFL as a backup but likely does not have the physical tools to develop into a starter. Does a good job moving through his progressions, beating pressure by hitting his outlets and moving the chains with short passes. However, he's less accurate down the field, lacks velocity on deep balls and doesn't possess a clean release to compensate for arm deficiencies. Displays good drop mechanics, but pocket mobility is only adequate, and he isn't a threat to tuck and run. Tolzien should be selected on Day 3.


      ANALYSIS

      STRENGTHS Takes care of the football. Checks down and throws the ball away. Displays the ability to move to his second and third options. Accurate in the short passing game. Gets rid of the ball on time on three-step drops. Flashes the ability to climb the pocket. Outstanding intangibles and leadership skills.

      WEAKNESSES Below average size measureables. Lacks the arm strength to drive the ball downfield into tight spots. Deep-ball accuracy is below average. Has a hitch in his delivery at times on intermediate-to-deep pass attempts. Doesn't possess the athleticism to consistently avoid rushers or pick up yards with his feet.

      Height: 6' 2"
      Hands: 10"
      Weight: 212
      Arms: 30 1/2"

      40 . . . . 20ss. . . . 3 cone. . Vert . . . . . Broad
      4.93 . . . 4.12 . . . 6.84 . . . 29½ in . . . 9'8" ft in
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
        Strong mind, weak arm. Competitive spirit.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #94
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/...-Scott-Tolzien

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          OVERVIEW
          Tolzien possesses the football IQ, toughness and enough ability to find a home in the NFL as a backup but likely does not have the physical tools to develop into a starter. Does a good job moving through his progressions, beating pressure by hitting his outlets and moving the chains with short passes. However, he's less accurate down the field, lacks velocity on deep balls and doesn't possess a clean release to compensate for arm deficiencies. Displays good drop mechanics, but pocket mobility is only adequate, and he isn't a threat to tuck and run. Tolzien should be selected on Day 3.



          ANALYSIS

          STRENGTHS Takes care of the football. Checks down and throws the ball away. Displays the ability to move to his second and third options. Accurate in the short passing game. Gets rid of the ball on time on three-step drops. Flashes the ability to climb the pocket. Outstanding intangibles and leadership skills.

          WEAKNESSES Below average size measureables. Lacks the arm strength to drive the ball downfield into tight spots. Deep-ball accuracy is below average. Has a hitch in his delivery at times on intermediate-to-deep pass attempts. Doesn't possess the athleticism to consistently avoid rushers or pick up yards with his feet.

          Height: 6' 2"
          Hands: 10"
          Weight: 212
          Arms: 30 1/2"

          40 . . . . 20ss. . . . 3 cone. . Vert . . . . . Broad
          4.93 . . . 4.12 . . . 6.84 . . . 29½ in . . . 9'8" ft in

          wait...isn't this Graham Harrell??
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
            wait...isn't this Graham Harrell??
            Those strengths and weaknesses describe a lot of backup QB's. That's why they're backups. I don't think Harrell's decision-making ability in games was ever good enough to overcome his physical deficiencies. That's the difference between him and a guy like Flynn.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              wait...isn't this Graham Harrell??
              yeah basically. maybe he's got more room to grow. doubt it. Harrell at least came out of a pass heavy offense in college.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
                yeah basically. maybe he's got more room to grow. doubt it. Harrell at least came out of a pass heavy offense in college.
                Yes, but Harrell's pass offense was unlike anything he is running in the Pros. Coaches have stolen concepts from the Air Raid, but no one runs it like Texas Tech did. Reads are vastly different. Tolzien's pro style offense at Wisconsin, even with its heavy run emphasis, might have prepared him better for certain aspects of the pro job.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #98
                  Tolzien will never be a starter but he seemed to be a heady QB at Madison and his accuracy was considered better than most other ex-WI QBs until Wilson transferred.

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                  • #99
                    There aren't 32 people out of 350 million who are capable of being quality NFL QB's. Think about that. We have the best and, now, a pretty decent backup. I hope SW sticks around for a couple of years.

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                    • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      Wallace was signed by New Orleans on August 15 and released on August 19. 49ers then signed him on August 22. But of course, the Packers had already signed Young by then.
                      Oh, ok, that makes sense. I feel better with Wallace as our #2 over VY.

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                      • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                        What do you think of bringing in TebowÉ
                        Now that you are done laughing, here is why he maybe worth a look,
                        In college he was a 67% complition thrower, now he is in the 50`s but with our wr`s route running it might fit.
                        He has a very low turn over ratio, which MM demands fo his qb`s.

                        I admit he is limited, but is he worse than Wallace. Can MM coach him upÉ
                        Wallace can actually throw the ball with decent accuracy.

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                        • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                          Wallace can actually throw the ball with decent accuracy.
                          So the 67% rate in college shows me he can have accuracy, I think his biggest weakness is the sllooww release of his. BUt if we are talking third backup could MM coach him up?
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                          • Heck yeah!
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • ...and our discussion about Wallace before we knew he would have to play!

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                              • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                                Wallace can actually throw the ball with decent accuracy.
                                59.4 %

                                That's his Career NFL passing percentage. That places him today in the bottom tier or bottom 10... of the top 30 NFL QB's.

                                Mind you some of the most highly regarded NFL QB's are having an off season in terms of passing percentage.

                                Andrew Luck @ 58.1 %; Colin Kaepernick @ 57.8 %; Matthew Stafford @ 59.2 % ...

                                a surprize to everyone... Tom Brady @ 60.7 %
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