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Originally posted by Packers4Glory View PostSomeone tell me about the PS QB from Wis we signed? any handy scouting reports available?The official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more.
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Tolzien possesses the football IQ, toughness and enough ability to find a home in the NFL as a backup but likely does not have the physical tools to develop into a starter. Does a good job moving through his progressions, beating pressure by hitting his outlets and moving the chains with short passes. However, he's less accurate down the field, lacks velocity on deep balls and doesn't possess a clean release to compensate for arm deficiencies. Displays good drop mechanics, but pocket mobility is only adequate, and he isn't a threat to tuck and run. Tolzien should be selected on Day 3.
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STRENGTHS Takes care of the football. Checks down and throws the ball away. Displays the ability to move to his second and third options. Accurate in the short passing game. Gets rid of the ball on time on three-step drops. Flashes the ability to climb the pocket. Outstanding intangibles and leadership skills.
WEAKNESSES Below average size measureables. Lacks the arm strength to drive the ball downfield into tight spots. Deep-ball accuracy is below average. Has a hitch in his delivery at times on intermediate-to-deep pass attempts. Doesn't possess the athleticism to consistently avoid rushers or pick up yards with his feet.
Height: 6' 2"
Hands: 10"
Weight: 212
Arms: 30 1/2"
40 . . . . 20ss. . . . 3 cone. . Vert . . . . . Broad
4.93 . . . 4.12 . . . 6.84 . . . 29½ in . . . 9'8" ft inBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostStrong mind, weak arm. Competitive spirit.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by pbmax View Posthttp://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/...-Scott-Tolzien
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OVERVIEW
Tolzien possesses the football IQ, toughness and enough ability to find a home in the NFL as a backup but likely does not have the physical tools to develop into a starter. Does a good job moving through his progressions, beating pressure by hitting his outlets and moving the chains with short passes. However, he's less accurate down the field, lacks velocity on deep balls and doesn't possess a clean release to compensate for arm deficiencies. Displays good drop mechanics, but pocket mobility is only adequate, and he isn't a threat to tuck and run. Tolzien should be selected on Day 3.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Takes care of the football. Checks down and throws the ball away. Displays the ability to move to his second and third options. Accurate in the short passing game. Gets rid of the ball on time on three-step drops. Flashes the ability to climb the pocket. Outstanding intangibles and leadership skills.
WEAKNESSES Below average size measureables. Lacks the arm strength to drive the ball downfield into tight spots. Deep-ball accuracy is below average. Has a hitch in his delivery at times on intermediate-to-deep pass attempts. Doesn't possess the athleticism to consistently avoid rushers or pick up yards with his feet.
Height: 6' 2"
Hands: 10"
Weight: 212
Arms: 30 1/2"
40 . . . . 20ss. . . . 3 cone. . Vert . . . . . Broad
4.93 . . . 4.12 . . . 6.84 . . . 29½ in . . . 9'8" ft in
wait...isn't this Graham Harrell??"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Those strengths and weaknesses describe a lot of backup QB's. That's why they're backups. I don't think Harrell's decision-making ability in games was ever good enough to overcome his physical deficiencies. That's the difference between him and a guy like Flynn.Originally posted by Fritz View Postwait...isn't this Graham Harrell??I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Yes, but Harrell's pass offense was unlike anything he is running in the Pros. Coaches have stolen concepts from the Air Raid, but no one runs it like Texas Tech did. Reads are vastly different. Tolzien's pro style offense at Wisconsin, even with its heavy run emphasis, might have prepared him better for certain aspects of the pro job.Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Postyeah basically. maybe he's got more room to grow. doubt it. Harrell at least came out of a pass heavy offense in college.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Wallace can actually throw the ball with decent accuracy.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostWhat do you think of bringing in TebowÉ
Now that you are done laughing, here is why he maybe worth a look,
In college he was a 67% complition thrower, now he is in the 50`s but with our wr`s route running it might fit.
He has a very low turn over ratio, which MM demands fo his qb`s.
I admit he is limited, but is he worse than Wallace. Can MM coach him upÉ
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So the 67% rate in college shows me he can have accuracy, I think his biggest weakness is the sllooww release of his. BUt if we are talking third backup could MM coach him up?Originally posted by Pugger View PostWallace can actually throw the ball with decent accuracy.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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59.4 %Originally posted by Pugger View PostWallace can actually throw the ball with decent accuracy.
That's his Career NFL passing percentage. That places him today in the bottom tier or bottom 10... of the top 30 NFL QB's.
Mind you some of the most highly regarded NFL QB's are having an off season in terms of passing percentage.
Andrew Luck @ 58.1 %; Colin Kaepernick @ 57.8 %; Matthew Stafford @ 59.2 % ...
a surprize to everyone... Tom Brady @ 60.7 %** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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