Scoops McGinn Stirs the Pot!

[Patler]

Again MJ, I am just speaking in general, philosophical terms - no team in the NFL is as draftcentric as GB. That is the proper way to build IMO, but at the same time, it can present problems that show up on the field - inexperience, miscommunication, busted coverages, etc.

It is what it is.

TT would rather live with those problems, than patch in a veteran.

...and yet, in 2012 when they needed a center, he went out and signed a very experienced free agent center.
...and in 2012 when he needed a running back, he went out and signed a very experienced free agent running back.
...and in 2013 when they needed a #2 QB, he went out and signed one and then another experienced free agent quarterback.

Looking at the safety position in the off season, they had a guy who didn't miss a snap in 2012, who seems to be regarded as an up and comer by many. They also had two returning vets who shared the other starting spot, both young, one just entering his second season. Why would TT think it necessary to invest in a veteran free agent safety?

Now, if it looks like Burnett will be out a while, and if Jennings and McMillan continue to struggle, I expect we will see another safety in GB soon.

[Patler]

Besides, that argument is a double edged sword for you - if Harrell and Coleman were garbage enough to be kicked to the curb this year, they were garbage enough to be kicked to the curb last year - yet they lanquished on the roster, did they not??

No, that is where you are wrong. Every NFL roster carries players who are not really ready to play now, but who are thought to be developable.
Besides, Coleman was not on the roster last year anyway. He was on the practice squad, exactly where he should have been with good physical tools but with a need to adapt to the NFL game.

[Joemailman]

Here's a scoop - Washington is a truly horrible team.

If we can't stomp them in easy fashion next week - we should start looking at next years draft.

Wow, do they look horrible.

Already setting up next week, aren't you? If the Packers don't blow out the Redskins, the season is hopeless. And if they do, it's only because the Redskins are horrible. Al least you're consistent.

[MJZiggy]

No, that is where you are wrong. Every NFL roster carries players who are not really ready to play now, but who are thought to be developable.
Besides, Coleman was not on the roster last year anyway. He was on the practice squad, exactly where he should have been with good physical tools but with a need to adapt to the NFL game.

Thanks for saving me the keystrokes.

[cheesner]

I often wonder why some people are Packer fans. They seem to despise the coaches and management. They rip on most of the players. They never seem to be happy. Why follow something that is so detestable?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Already setting up next week, aren't you? If the Packers don't blow out the Redskins, the season is hopeless. And if they do, it's only because the Redskins are horrible. Al least you're consistent.

Washington made the playoffs last year, so they can't be completely devoid of talent. Unfortunately, RGIII got some confidence going in the second half after missing most of training camp.

[Bretsky]

He has thrown better than 6th round picks at vets before and they went elsewhere (Moss, Gonzalez, Lynch). Next contention?

So your point it TT can't close a deal ?

[Bretsky]

...and yet, in 2012 when they needed a center, he went out and signed a very experienced free agent center.
...and in 2012 when he needed a running back, he went out and signed a very experienced free agent running back.
...and in 2013 when they needed a #2 QB, he went out and signed one and then another experienced free agent quarterback.

Looking at the safety position in the off season, they had a guy who didn't miss a snap in 2012, who seems to be regarded as an up and comer by many. They also had two returning vets who shared the other starting spot, both young, one just entering his second season. Why would TT think it necessary to invest in a veteran free agent safety?

Now, if it looks like Burnett will be out a while, and if Jennings and McMillan continue to struggle, I expect we will see another safety in GB soon.

Who was the up coming safety ? McMillen ? I've never shared his Kool Aide and MD Jennings is a JAG...which is why I wanted Eric Reed so badly. Burnett is stellar but I didn't see much there beyond him.

[Upnorth]

Here's a scoop - Washington is a truly horrible team.

If we can't stomp them in easy fashion next week - we should start looking at next years draft.

Wow, do they look horrible.

The first half they did look like garbage, the second half they started looking good. Still think we will win.

[pbmax]

So your point it TT can't close a deal ?

I will accept that argument before I accept that he would never offer a sixth, which is clearly false.

It takes two to tango and the team or player have to want to deal with you for it to happen.

[denverYooper]

I often wonder why some people are Packer fans. They seem to despise the coaches and management. They rip on most of the players. They never seem to be happy. Why follow something that is so detestable?

Taking such an attitude makes everything easy: when they lose, you get to be right; when they win, you were wrong, but your team won.

I always picture him like Randy Quaid in Major League.

[pbmax]

Taking such an attitude makes everything easy: when they lose, you get to be right; when they win, you were wrong, but your team won.

I always picture him like Randy Quaid in Major League.

Oh no Yoop, its an even better proposition when they win. It can be that they FINALLY listened to you OR that its the exception that proves the rule.

#neverbewrong

[wist43]

Listening to you guys - TT just can't stay away from the FA market... like a john addicted to the Bunny Ranch, huh

[3irty1]

People forget what backup QB's are really for. Their main responsibility day to day is to run the scout team. They research the opposition and mimic them in practice against the first team D. Now doesn't it seem obvious why we'd prefer a guy in the mold of Vince Young or Seneca Wallace instead of sticking with Graham Harrell or BJ Coleman this year? Check the NFC playoffs last year for clues.

[wist43]

No, that is where you are wrong. Every NFL roster carries players who are not really ready to play now, but who are thought to be developable.
Besides, Coleman was not on the roster last year anyway. He was on the practice squad, exactly where he should have been with good physical tools but with a need to adapt to the NFL game.

Thanks for saving me the keystrokes.

MJ, you made the point that TT would not let a hole lanquish on the roster - he'd find a patch, if that was what was necessary. He may have done that this year with Wallace replacing Coleman and Harrell, but he didn't do it last year when they were both still on the roster... again, if they were shit this year, they were shit last year - hence, TT let the roster glide along with a hole - did he not??

You guys get so caught up trying to poke me in the eye, you contradict yourselves all the time.

I made a GENERAL, PHILOSOPHICAL point - get it?? General - as in not an ironclad rule, as in not a scientific law - get it?? No?? I didn't think so.