Scoops McGinn Stirs the Pot!

[3irty1]

Listening to you guys - TT just can't stay away from the FA market... like a john addicted to the Bunny Ranch, huh

Listening to you - " the Anquan Boldin of safeties" is a choice that is perpetually available to every GM in the league.

WHY oh WHY does Ted not just have his cake and eat it too?! It's soooo simple!

[Patler]

MJ, you made the point that TT would not let a hole lanquish on the roster - he'd find a patch, if that was what was necessary. He may have done that this year with Wallace replacing Coleman and Harrell, but he didn't do it last year when they were both still on the roster... again, if they were shit this year, they were shit last year - hence, TT let the roster glide along with a hole - did he not??

You guys get so caught up trying to poke me in the eye, you contradict yourselves all the time.

I made a GENERAL, PHILOSOPHICAL point - get it?? General - as in not an ironclad rule, as in not a scientific law - get it?? No?? I didn't think so.

...and we don't do the same??? It seems to me you are the one who gets tied up in his shorts attempting to twist every situation into a common theme.

[Zool]

...and we don't do the same??? It seems to me you are the one who gets tied up in his shorts attempting to twist every situation into a common theme.

This is a fantastic visual. Thank you for this.

I present to you, men's shorts as a dress.

[Guiness]

Washington made the playoffs last year, so they can't be completely devoid of talent. Unfortunately, RGIII got some confidence going in the second half after missing most of training camp.

Yup, they're not going to be a pushover. A playoff team that should be improved from last year. RG3 will have shaken the rust off. His timing and decision making looked bad first half but improved from there.

[pbmax]

Image does not compute.

[Fritz]

Who was the up coming safety ? McMillen ? I've never shared his Kool Aide and MD Jennings is a JAG...which is why I wanted Eric Reed so badly. Burnett is stellar but I didn't see much there beyond him.

Ah, but didn't the Niners trade up to the 18th spot to get him? They gave up their first round pick plus a third.

That would mean Green Bay would have had to given up the same, in all likelihood. So...no Datone Jones, and no Bahktieri and Tretter - the two fourth rounders, I think, they received from SF in exchange for GB's third rounder.

So, to recap, if I am correct, to get your man Reid, the Packers would have:

No Datone Jones
No David Bahktieri
No JC Tretter

Interesting thought. Not sure I agree with your thinking, though. Without Bahk, who played pretty well, we'd have the same "Marshmallow" Newhouse you love so much, still starting at left tackle.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ah, but didn't the Niners trade up to the 18th spot to get him? They gave up their first round pick plus a third.

That would mean Green Bay would have had to given up the same, in all likelihood. So...no Datone Jones, and no Bahktieri and Tretter - the two fourth rounders, I think, they received from SF in exchange for GB's third rounder.

So, to recap, if I am correct, to get your man Reid, the Packers would have:

No Datone Jones
No David Bahktieri
No JC Tretter

Interesting thought. Not sure I agree with your thinking, though. Without Bahk, who played pretty well, we'd have the same "Marshmallow" Newhouse you love so much, still starting at left tackle.

Box.

[Patler]

Looking at the safety position in the off season, they had a guy who didn't miss a snap in 2012, who seems to be regarded as an up and comer by many.

Who was the up coming safety ? McMillen ? I've never shared his Kool Aide and MD Jennings is a JAG...which is why I wanted Eric Reed so badly. Burnett is stellar but I didn't see much there beyond him.

Burnett.

[Bretsky]

Then what's Wallace doing here? Why was Woodson on the team? Why did he go after Moss et al? It's not a done-deal "philosophy" as you make it out to be. We're just not foolhardy in running after every big name out there the way some here would like us to. This isn't Madden. We have to use some common sense. Case in point, I'm still waiting for the name of that safety that TT should have acquired. He hasn't because there isn't one available that suits what we need. Actually, I don't think there's a good one available at all...

I really don't think Seneca Wallace proves anything but miserable failure on the part of the GB Packers organization in terms of not having a remotely qualified backup. We went too far and too long with developmental junk. Kudos for realizing this...I guess....but it's a desperate move because there were no other options.

To me the Wooson and PIckett signing provides solid evidence of why we should go after the occasional free agents more. We just don't because we'd rather develop our own. It is what it is.

Michael Huff; of course you may recall many bringing up his name in the offseason. There were others but he seemed to be a decent fit. Ozzie Newsome signed him....but hell..he knows nothing .....right ?

AND Huff is no star but he's better than the wannabe's we had out there last week

[Bretsky]

Ah, but didn't the Niners trade up to the 18th spot to get him? They gave up their first round pick plus a third.

That would mean Green Bay would have had to given up the same, in all likelihood. So...no Datone Jones, and no Bahktieri and Tretter - the two fourth rounders, I think, they received from SF in exchange for GB's third rounder.

So, to recap, if I am correct, to get your man Reid, the Packers would have:

No Datone Jones
No David Bahktieri
No JC Tretter

Interesting thought. Not sure I agree with your thinking, though. Without Bahk, who played pretty well, we'd have the same "Marshmallow" Newhouse you love so much, still starting at left tackle.

I'm not complaining we didn't trade up for him; but dam we sure as hell could have drafted another safety

Speaking of draft day deals.............could we have had Brandon Williams in round 3 and the Backman in round 4.

Jonathon Franklyn has been junk anyways...........as has been Everybody's man BOYD

[Bretsky]

Ah, but didn't the Niners trade up to the 18th spot to get him? They gave up their first round pick plus a third.

That would mean Green Bay would have had to given up the same, in all likelihood. So...no Datone Jones, and no Bahktieri and Tretter - the two fourth rounders, I think, they received from SF in exchange for GB's third rounder.

So, to recap, if I am correct, to get your man Reid, the Packers would have:

No Datone Jones
No David Bahktieri
No JC Tretter

Interesting thought. Not sure I agree with your thinking, though. Without Bahk, who played pretty well, we'd have the same "Marshmallow" Newhouse you love so much, still starting at left tackle.

And one other thing.............I'd still take Reed over Jones.....we might have had the Backman with our own 4th. I don't care about Tretter

[mraynrand]

I really don't think Seneca Wallace proves anything but miserable failure on the part of the GB Packers organization in terms of not having a remotely qualified backup. We went too far and too long with developmental junk. Kudos for realizing this...I guess....but it's a desperate move because there were no other options.

To me the Wooson and PIckett signing provides solid evidence of why we should go after the occasional free agents more. We just don't because we'd rather develop our own. It is what it is.

Michael Huff; of course you may recall many bringing up his name in the offseason. There were others but he seemed to be a decent fit. Ozzie Newsome signed him....but hell..he knows nothing .....right ?

AND Huff is no star but he's better than the wannabe's we had out there last week

Would Huff have been interested in signing knowing his playing time would be reduced because he would come off the field a lot in favor of Hayward? In other words, when it was time to sign him, you didn't know that the guys who were going to play ahead of him would be injured. And so he has to make a decision based on projected playing time, and the Packers have to make a decision if they want to pay him the money he's worth as an insurance policy in case of injury or in case some guys don't step up through OTAs, training camp, and preseason. I think most people here expected one of Millian, Doc Jennings, or the injured guy Richardson to step up and be a capable starter next to Burnett. And they didn't expect burnett and hayward to be missing the opener. You can't make personnel decisions assuming guys are going to be injured - no team can sign effective starters to all backup roles.

[Bretsky]

Would Huff have been interested in signing knowing his playing time would be reduced because he would come off the field a lot in favor of Hayward? In other words, when it was time to sign him, you didn't know that the guys who were going to play ahead of him would be injured. And so he has to make a decision based on projected playing time, and the Packers have to make a decision if they want to pay him the money he's worth as an insurance policy in case of injury or in case some guys don't step up through OTAs, training camp, and preseason. I think most people here expected one of Millian, Doc Jennings, or the injured guy Richardson to step up and be a capable starter next to Burnett. And they didn't expect burnett and hayward to be missing the opener. You can't make personnel decisions assuming guys are going to be injured - no team can sign effective starters to all backup roles.

Would Heyward really take that much time away form a safety ? I kind of looked at him as a very capable CB. I have absolutely no faith in MD Jennings or Richardson. Those are pipe dreams IMO.

Huff would have been signed to be a near every play starter IMO. Let the other guys develop until they are ready

[3irty1]

Would Heyward really take that much time away form a safety ? I kind of looked at him as a very capable CB. I have absolutely no faith in MD Jennings or Richardson. Those are pipe dreams IMO.

Huff would have been signed to be a near every play starter IMO. Let the other guys develop until they are ready

FYI profootball focus gave Michael Huff the lowest grade of every defensive player Thursday night. This would come to no surprise to those who watched it. I don't think the answer to our safeties that can't cover or tackle is an older, more expensive safety who can't cover or tackle.

Huff's a turd.