Mathews cant hitchike for a bit.

[Patler]

Guys, I am not saying Clay is a pussy for not playing AFTER having the procedure. I'm saying suck it up and have the procedure done AFTER the season. I'm sure his quality of life would still be just fine, while spending his millions with a somewhat damaged thumb. He's a great player, but gets hurt a lot. I'd take a solid player that is more durable, over a star that gets hurt easily any day.

I don't think you can postpone positioning of broken bones until after the season. They will begin to, or attempt to heal where they are.

I agree with your concerns about his health, and I was somewhat ambivalent about his contract extension because of it. Broken bones are somewhat fluky things that just happen. The hamstrings are another issue. I suspect they will be the early end of his career at some point, because an article I read recently said the biggest factor for getting a hamstring pull is having a previous hamstring pull, and Matthews has had a bunch. He said this year that he has had them in both legs and in many different locations.

I had hoped he would play 18-20 years like his father and uncle did. I doubt that is in the cards for him. I now hope he plays enough over the next 5+ years to justify his contract extension. I doubt that he will get another in GB.

[Zool]

Guys, I am not saying Clay is a pussy for not playing AFTER having the procedure. I'm saying suck it up and have the procedure done AFTER the season. I'm sure his quality of life would still be just fine, while spending his millions with a somewhat damaged thumb. He's a great player, but gets hurt a lot. I'd take a solid player that is more durable, over a star that gets hurt easily any day.

Here's what happens when you don't get it fixed right away.

[mraynrand]

fixing a fracture dislocation with pins is standard of care. Matthews grabbing is essential to his tackling technique. For a fast burst guy, it's essential that he have a fully functional hand. Without treatment, he'd lose that mobility in the present (club) and forever (malalignment, fusion) if he 'waited' until the end of the year. Plus, he wouldn't be able to lift the toilet seat:

[Pugger]

Interview with hand specialist in GBPG discusses the operation, recovery, etc.:

http://www.packersnews.com/article/2...e-can-t-rushed

Oh damn, I can't read this because I used up my complimentary access.

[red]

Yup, and the screws, I think, might actually be rigid wires that protrude out of his hand until they are removed. Impossible to play with

Years ago, players probably WOULD have taped it up and played with it, but could have ended up with a thumb of little functional use as a result. Things can be fixed now that the "tough" guys of the past played with. Sure doesn't mean those who opt for surgery to get things fixed properly are any less tough.

the article says its those wires, not screws

and for those cringing because of screws being inserted. you don't feel the screws at all. bones have no nerves i have found out. broken bones hurt because all the tissue around the bone is affected

i broke a bone in my thumb back in college, don't know if it was the exact same or not, but it does suck and hurt like hell. you can't use your thumb at all. and for me, because i didn't go in and get it fixed, i had problems with it for a few years

surgery was the right move

[hoosier]

fixing a fracture dislocation with pins is standard of care. Matthews grabbing is essential to his tackling technique. For a fast burst guy, it's essential that he have a fully functional hand. Without treatment, he'd lose that mobility in the present (club) and forever (malalignment, fusion) if he 'waited' until the end of the year. Plus, he wouldn't be able to lift the toilet seat:

Let me take up Rut's line of thinking: standard of care, functionality, alignment, this is all just pussy thought. Why couldn't Clay just have his thumb amputated (sans anaesthetic, of course: bite the bullet) and play next Sunday like the team needs him to?

[Smidgeon]

Not just Clay, most NFL players have more toughness in their fingernails than little internet worms like you have in their whole bodies.

Last night Julio Jones of the Falcons played the game after sustaining a season ending injury.

These guys have been stars in HS, college, & now the NFL.

I laugh my ass off when internet dimwits like you (I've seen some of your previous posts on here) question their guts to play hurt.

How the fuck do you know if a guy is feeling too much pain or is incapable of taking the field?

Oh yeah, that's right, you'd sling your keyboard at the runner and knock him down that way.

Repped.

[Smidgeon]

Oh damn, I can't read this because I used up my complimentary access.

Delete your cookies on your computer and try again.

[Pugger]

I'm not the most computer savvy person around. How do I do this?

[pbmax]

I'm not the most computer savvy person around. How do I do this?

http://kb.iu.edu/data/ahic.html

Just pick the name of the browser you have been using on this page, link will take you to directions.

[mraynrand]

you can also go in and specifically delete the JS cookie, so that all the other cookies that manage logins, surveillance, etc. on other sites will be retained. I have one annoying credit card site that requires a confirmation email every time I delete their damn cookies. "we don't recognize your computer!"

[mraynrand]

Let me take up Rut's line of thinking: standard of care, functionality, alignment, this is all just pussy thought. Why couldn't Clay just have his thumb amputated (sans anaesthetic, of course: bite the bullet) and play next Sunday like the team needs him to?

Just think how doubly angry Wist would be: a poorly aligned defense with poorly aligned thumbs!

[KYPack]

Guys, I am not saying Clay is a pussy for not playing AFTER having the procedure. I'm saying suck it up and have the procedure done AFTER the season. I'm sure his quality of life would still be just fine, while spending his millions with a somewhat damaged thumb. He's a great player, but gets hurt a lot. I'd take a solid player that is more durable, over a star that gets hurt easily any day.

Well my little Rut, you've made it.

With this post, you've established that you have achieved that state of bliss known as total and pure stupidity.

You are an envious, complete fool.

[mraynrand]

Well my little Rut, you've made it.

With this post, you've established that you have achieved that state of bliss known as total and pure stupidity.

You are an envious, complete fool.

but he's an excellent dancer!

[Pugger]

I found if I use IE instead I can read it just fine without messing around with my cookies.