Bad locker room in Miami?

[ThunderDan]

Now, you just saw an interview with one party who spun things in his favor, and you take this as proof that the issue is understood and settled.

This person saw the same interview and came up with the same conclusion.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1844490-richie-incognito-tv-interview-offers-one-telling-non-answer-and-a-lot-of-pr-bunk?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=cnn-br-bin&hpt=hp_bn8

[pbmax]

This person saw the same interview and came up with the same conclusion.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...bin&hpt=hp_bn8

That article was depressing. Here comes PR Goodell. I never thought I would long for the days of Paul Tagliabue.

[Guiness]

Ah, I did not see that he lasted at Oregon only a week.

Didn't even make it into fall camp. Article makes it seem he was supposed to spend a year with the team without getting on the field, then play the following year. He didn't make it as far as camp the first year.

[pbmax]

Okay, before theMMQB.com took off, I don't think I knew who Robert Klemko was. But he is doing yeoman's work on this story for them.

Very good summation of how the Dolphins got to this point.

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/08/jonathan-martin-race-in-the-nfl/

And the best summary of it I can give is this:

Asked if it was okay for a white person to say “nigger,” rookie defensive end Dion Jordan said he didn’t believe it was an acceptable word for anyone to say.

So would he step up and object if he heard a player say it?

“Well that’s between the player and whoever he’s talking to,” Jordan said.

When Incognito is a bona fide team leader, you are going to get bad results. And that reflects poorly on the GM and Head Coach.

[KYPack]

Thx for posting that one, Red.

It's fairly safe to say that nobody knows what's going on.

Not me, not Red, not Tony.

What will be the outcome of this whole deal?

I think Ireland and Joe Philbin are gone by the end of the season, post SB.

I also think Martin and Richie never play another down in an NFL game.

Would that be righteous?

Who knows?

Heard an interesting point this AM.

Martin has the Stanford connection working with two clubs.

Indy (Luck) and SF (Harbaugh), might work in his favor.

Big Rich? I dunno, lotsa baggage with that big oaf.

[Tony Oday]

ROGER GOODELL

I WANT THE TRUTH!

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JOE PHILBIN

YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

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PHILIP RIVERS

Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin?

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JOE PHILBIN

Goodell, we live in a world that has QBs, and those QBs have to be guarded by men who block.

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JOE PHILBIN

Who’s gonna do it? You? You Lieutenant McKinnie?

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JOE PHILBIN

I have a greater responsibility than you can POSSIBLY fathom. You weep for Jonathan Martin, and you curse the locker room culture. You have that luxury.

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JOE PHILBIN

You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: That the Jonathan Martin scandal, while tragic, also makes him kind of a pussy. And Richie Incognito’s bullying, while mean-spirited and racist, was supposed to make Martin LESS of a pussy.

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JOE PHILBIN

You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about in huddles, you want tough guys on that line. You NEED tough guys on that line.

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JOE PHILBIN

NFL players say things like the “N” word, the “F” word, and the “R” word.

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JOE PHILBIN

They say these things because… well, because there’s still a lot of small-minded, terrible bigotry in the world, I suppose. But you use them as mob-inciting buzzwords.

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JOE PHILBIN

I have neither the time, nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who profits as a result of the very protection that I provide, and then QUESTIONS the manner in which I provide it.

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JOE PHILBIN

I would rather you just say, “thank you,” and write me a check. Otherwise, I suggest you put on some pads, and learn to pick up a blitz.

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JOE PHILBIN

Either way, I don’t give a DAMN what you think you are entitled to.

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ROGER GOODELL

Did you order the Code Teal?

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JOE PHILBIN

I did the job I had to do…

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ROGER GOODELL

DID YOU ORDER THE CODE TEAL?!

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JOE PHILBIN

YOU’RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!

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Stole this from Profootballmock.com Funny stuff

[Joemailman]

TJ Lang tweeting on the Miami situation.

TJ Lang @TJLang70 2h

Please don't stereotype NFL players for what's going on with Miami. That type of stuff is not common in other locker rooms.

Not sure IF TJ would know what goes on in other locker rooms, but he obviously would know about his own. I've always had a hunch Green Bay was a lot different than what goes on in Miami, but I don't know which team is closer to the norm.

[pbmax]

Judging from the report, Joe Philbin was unaware there was a Code Teal.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24443038/wells-report-richie-incognito-john-jerry-pouncey-harassed-martin

[Kiwon]

Just curious.....in the Trayvon Martin case, George Zimmerman went from "Hispanic" to "White Hispanic" in the press.

How long before guard John Jerry and center Mike Pouncey will go in the media from "African-American" to "White African-American"?

[bobblehead]

JOE PHILBIN

I would rather you just say, “thank you,” and write me a check. Otherwise, I suggest you put on some pads, and learn to pick up a blitz.

Almost stopped reading when I hit this and the image of Goodell trying to stop a blitzing claymaker entered my head...I giggled a lot.

[bobblehead]

Judging from the report, Joe Philbin was unaware there was a Code Teal.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...arassed-martin

Joe Philbin is simply a better liar than Col. Jessup.

[pbmax]

Joe Philbin is simply a better liar than Col. Jessup.

That is not a superlative I would be proud of.

[mraynrand]

That is not a superlative I would be proud of.

is there another kind?

[pbmax]

is there another kind?

Probably poor word choice. Was thinking of grammatical description of something being more (-er or better) or most (-est or best) of a trait. Not ringing a bell now. Like inferior/superior, but with a middle option. I was thinking comparative/superlative.

Point was that not only is Philbin a liar in your scenario but he is also a poor leader. Lying publicly, for a coach these days, is practically expected. Lying to an internal investigation is perhaps much riskier. But, taking your point seriously for a moment, actually not being able to control what you may have allowed/set into motion, is the poorest recommendation of a coach I can think of, other than being hired by the Browns.

[Patler]

Probably poor word choice. Was thinking of grammatical description of something being more (-er or better) or most (-est or best) of a trait. Not ringing a bell now. Like inferior/superior, but with a middle option.

more accomplished, as in: "a more accomplished liar than..."