Scott Motherf***ing Tolzien

[Zool]

He's got to work on his short throws. He gets it out quick, but put a read on it and throw the sucker higher. Some of his slip screens only get about 6' off the ground. The one to JPP was awrful!

He's not great at progressions yet. He's 1 read then check down right now but maybe that's what McCarthy has him doing? Keeping the O simple enough for him.

He really needs to start looking some people off. Being an old Badger, I was pulling for him but I'm starting to know what Viking fans have been bitching about for so long.

[pbmax]

Another was when tight end Brandon Myers was open on an 8-yard pass on third and 5 from the 11-yard line. Safety M.D. Jennings didn't diagnose the play quickly enough and was late coming up to cover Myers.

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Hyde, I can excuse. What is the deal with veterans not knowing how to react to routes? Is this the first time they have seen switch routes? Given that they have verbal and hand signals to communicate how to handle the situation, it seems unlikely.

[denverYooper]

Hyde, I can excuse. What is the deal with veterans not knowing how to react to routes? Is this the first time they have seen switch routes? Given that they have verbal and hand signals to communicate how to handle the situation, it seems unlikely.

I can't remember who, but someone tweeted this morning that the Packers will probably see a lot of switch routes over the next few...

[run pMc]

Bob McGinn: "To those calling for Matt Flynn, I can only say that Tolzien's two appearances were better than Flynn's start Sept. 29 for Oakland against Washington."

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-packers-vs-giants-b99145085z1-232450101.html

[pbmax]

I can't remember who, but someone tweeted this morning that the Packers will probably see a lot of switch routes over the next few...

They had trouble with bunch formations in 2009. Its just terrible.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tolzien doesn't quite have his timing down, which shows up more on short passes. He will get better week to week.

This sounds uncoachlike, but I think the Packers will have to overcome an occasional interception by Tolzien. I think it would be worse to try and dial-back Tolzien and make him a "game manager." I think the Packers have to let Tolzien play aggressive.

Aaron Rodgers had the same problem in his early real game experience.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/ask-vic/article-1/Scott-Tolzien-is-tough-and-he-belongs-in-the-league/09da87d1-2278-4eb8-aedf-3caf713c042d

Clem from Presque Isle, WI

The thing I think the Packers miss most without Rodgers is his brain. Tolzien seems to have a good arm, though I’m bothered by his tendency to sidearm the ball, resulting in a lower trajectory, but what the Packers can’t replace is Rodgers’ ability to read defenses and change the play at the line. Am I wrong?

" The Packers miss that and a whole lot more. Name one team in the league with a franchise quarterback that wouldn’t experience a significant decrease in efficiency if it was without that quarterback. What we must remember is that Scott Tolzien wasn’t Aaron Rodgers’ backup; Tolzien was Seneca Wallace’s backup. Tolzien is playing at an incredibly high level of efficiency. You expect a quarterback promoted from the practice squad to throw interceptions, and Tolzien has, but what you worry most about is that he might be overmatched, and Tolzien isn’t. The game is not too big for him. He belongs in the league and he’s going to get better and better as he gains experience and development. "

GO PACK GO !

[CaptainKickass]

Bob McGinn: "To those calling for Matt Flynn, I can only say that Tolzien's two appearances were better than Flynn's start Sept. 29 for Oakland against Washington."

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...232450101.html

I can't believe you call yourself a "journalist", Bob.

Matt Flynn's last single game as a Packer was at least six times more productive than the last two Tolzien games.

See Bob? It's easy to cherry pick stats and speak with circular arguments to give the illusion of logic. You're still feeling guilty about the "win without Rodgers" article, aren't you?

As you well should.

Again, Matt Flynn gives the Packers the best chance to win on Sunday. Perhaps he's not being played because the Packers know that Rodgers will not be cleared in time for a stretch run. After all - the last star Packer who broke his collarbone was out for 9 (nine) - yes i say it again - nine weeks.

Or -

Perhaps Bob McAsshole - you sort of ripped a hole in the football space-time continuum by penning your retarded but now infamous article contemplating Rodgers demise. They do say the pen is mightier than the sword.

Perhaps Bob, you fucking asshole, you should pen an article about how the season is completely lost and there's no way the Packers win another game this year. Even if you don't believe it - you need to publish that shit anyway. It may be the only way to save this season from the paradox that you are at least participating in, if not the creator of.

It won't change you from being an asshole, but it may save you from being called one so frequently.


Kind regards,


~The Captain

[Upnorth]

Leaving shortly with the wife and and friends to play in Regina again for grey cup fever (this is getting expensive) but the capt'n has given me one last thought to convey whilst sober, fuck you mcginn you horrible excuse for a journalist. Looking back not only is he responsible for arod's collarbone but I also now believe he was responsible for the start of Favres playoff interception ways as well. He is packer enemy number one! With out him capers d would not have regressed and Slocum would have been one of the tgreatest special teams coaches.
If anyone is wondering yes yes I have been drinking. Go Riders Go!!!

[woodbuck27]

http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/dont-give-up-on-green-bay-packers-yet/

Not a lot here to sink your teeth into but this is interesting RE: Scott Tolzien:

Through his first two appearances the former Wisconsin Badger may not have a desirable touchdown to interception ratio (1-5) or a win, but he does have ** more yards ** in those games than any Packer quarterback has in his first two games in history. That list includes Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers.

** I'm not going to check that out and will leave that to Patler.

I'm impressed that Scott Tolzien has thrown for an average exceeding 300 yards /game. The Packer receivers have certainly supported Scott Tolzien as we've seen several outstanding receptions in the last two games. The receivers have been stretching it out to make great catch's.

** In two games Tolzien has thrown for a total of 280 + 339 = 619 yards.

A lot of the credit there has to go to the receivers.

Today he adds pass and TD to the storyline as he leads our teams offense in a Green Bay Packer win. Today his average of 2.5 picks /game drops. The first thing the Packers offense needs for a win today is a productive Scott Tolzien.

GO PACKERS !