Scott Motherf***ing Tolzien

[Joemailman]

In 2010, after Rodgers returned from his concussion, the Packers uncharacteristically kept 3 QB's on the roster for the rest of the season. I expect they'll do the same thing here. Partly for insurance, but also to help evaluate who they want to sign as their backup for 2014. Assuming those guys want to sign.

[Pugger]

In 2010, after Rodgers returned from his concussion, the Packers uncharacteristically kept 3 QB's on the roster for the rest of the season. I expect they'll do the same thing here. Partly for insurance, but also to help evaluate who they want to sign as their backup for 2014. Assuming those guys want to sign.

But if we want to bring Cobb back on the active roster somebody has to go to make room for him (or Worthy and/or Richardson) down the line.

[Joemailman]

But if we want to bring Cobb back on the active roster somebody has to go to make room for him (or Worthy and/or Richardson) down the line.

They currently have 5 WR's on the roster. One will be cut when Cobb comes back. If they activate Richardson (a big if), they'll probably cut a DB, either Nixon or Banjo. If they activate Worthy, they'll probably cut someone. They currently have 7 DL not including Neal.

[denverYooper]

They currently have 5 WR's on the roster. One will be cut when Cobb comes back. If they activate Richardson (a big if), they'll probably cut a DB, either Nixon or Banjo. If they activate Worthy, they'll probably cut someone. They currently have 7 DL not including Neal.

My guess is that they'd IR Hayward to activate Richardson.

[pbmax]

I think Rob Johnson still has some hurt feelings about the NFL, but he is convinced Tolzien can play in it. The article does mention his arm slot being a bit low. Interceptions aside, three batted balls didn't help last week.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/scott-tolzien-knows-packers-future-rests-on-his-performance-b99143274z1-232152801.html

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think 20's a reach for the number of franchise QBs. I can think of a dozen teams off the top of my head that don't have one. I'm counting any team who's starting a rookie as 'not having a franchise QB'.

Time for my Senator Joe McCarthy imitation. I have in my hand a list:

Arizona Cardinals Carson Palmer
Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan
Baltimore Ravens - Joe Flacco
Buffalo Bills - Thad Lewis
Carolina Panthers - Cam Newton
Chicago Bears - Jay Cutler
Cincinnati Bengals - Andy Dalton
Cleveland Browns - Jason Campbell
Dallas Cowboys - Tony Romo
Denver Broncos - Peyton Manning
Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford
Green Bay Packers - Scott Tolzien (Aaron Rodgers)
Houston Texans - Case Keenum
Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck
Dolphins - Chad Henne
Kansas City Chiefs - Alex Smith
Miami Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill
Minnesota Vikings - Christian Ponder
New England Pats - Tom Brady
NO Saints - Drew Brees
New York Giants - Eli Manning
New York Jets - Geno Smith
Oakland Raiders - Terrelle Pryor
Phil Eagles - Nick Foles (Michael Vick)
Pitts Steelers - Ben Roethlisberger
SD Chargers - Philip Rivers
SF 49ers - Colin Kaepernick
Seattle Seahawks - Russell Wilson
St. Louis Rams - Kellen Clemens (Sam Bradford)
Tampa Bay Bucs - Mike Glennon
Tennessee Titans - Jake Locker
Washington Skins - Robert Griffin III

Thank you Wikipedia.

I'm gonna count Geno Smith, Andy Dalton as franchise QBs.
I don't know about Jake Locker, Michael Vick, Thad Lewis, Case Keenum, Mike Glennon

The guys that need to be replaced:
Terrelle Pryor, Christian Ponder, Chad Henne, Jason Campbell

So by my lights, there are at least 23 "Franchise QBs" in the league. Maybe I am a little soft in the heart or head.

[pbmax]

I would question Geno Smith, Nick Foles, Jason Campbell, Alex Smith, Bradford/Clemens.

But I think by the end of the post you realized you needed to concede.

[Joemailman]

I count 21

Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan
Baltimore Ravens - Joe Flacco
Carolina Panthers - Cam Newton
Chicago Bears - Jay Cutler
Cincinnati Bengals - Andy Dalton
Dallas Cowboys - Tony Romo
Denver Broncos - Peyton Manning
Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford
Green Bay Packers - Aaron Rodgers
Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck
Kansas City Chiefs - Alex Smith
Miami Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill
New England Pats - Tom Brady
NO Saints - Drew Brees
New York Giants - Eli Manning
Phil Eagles - Nick Foles (Michael Vick)
Pitts Steelers - Ben Roethlisberger
SD Chargers - Philip Rivers
SF 49ers - Colin Kaepernick
Seattle Seahawks - Russell Wilson
Washington Skins - Robert Griffin III

[Guiness]

Time for my Senator Joe McCarthy imitation. I have in my hand a list:

Thank you Wikipedia.

I'm gonna count Geno Smith, Andy Dalton as franchise QBs.
I don't know about Jake Locker, Michael Vick, Thad Lewis, Case Keenum, Mike Glennon

The guys that need to be replaced:
Terrelle Pryor, Christian Ponder, Chad Henne, Jason Campbell

So by my lights, there are at least 23 "Franchise QBs" in the league. Maybe I am a little soft in the heart or head.

And a shitty list it is. Bad as they are, Jacksonville remains in the NFL

Soft headed or soft hearted. If you are counting Carson Palmer, Alex Smith as franchise passers you are setting the bar low. Tannehill might be who Miami's pining their hopes on now, but to put him on that level is a reach. Kaepernick? Well, outside what he did to the Pack week 1, the shine has come off of him. And don't even get me started on Flacco.

[CaptainKickass]

Speaking of Scott Motherfucking Tolzien -

That's just a little something for those readers who are either not fucking smart enough or too fucking lazy to find it themselves. Consider it a gift.

And don't say Kickass never did anything for you.

[Bossman641]

I count 21

Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan
Baltimore Ravens - Joe Flacco
Carolina Panthers - Cam Newton
Chicago Bears - Jay Cutler
Cincinnati Bengals - Andy Dalton
Dallas Cowboys - Tony Romo
Denver Broncos - Peyton Manning
Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford
Green Bay Packers - Aaron Rodgers
Indianapolis Colts - Andrew Luck
Kansas City Chiefs - Alex Smith
Miami Dolphins - Ryan Tannehill
New England Pats - Tom Brady
NO Saints - Drew Brees
New York Giants - Eli Manning
Phil Eagles - Nick Foles (Michael Vick)
Pitts Steelers - Ben Roethlisberger
SD Chargers - Philip Rivers
SF 49ers - Colin Kaepernick
Seattle Seahawks - Russell Wilson
Washington Skins - Robert Griffin III

When I think franchise I think guys you aren't looking to replace. I don't see that in dalton, Smith, tannehill, foles. I have a hard time categorizing rivers and big ben as franchise as well at this point

[Pugger]

Rivers is having a decent season this year. Big Ben is not but Pitt has issues up and down their roster.

[pbmax]

Boy was he a sidearmer.

[Guiness]

Boy was he a sidearmer.

Lotta throws back across the body to the left as well. His form reminds me of the "inverted W" or gull motion some MLB pitchers use.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I would question Geno Smith, Nick Foles, Jason Campbell, Alex Smith, Bradford/Clemens.

But I think by the end of the post you realized you needed to concede.

Nick Foles is just a stand-in for Vick. But I put Vick on my death-watch list anyway.

No, I'm standing by 23. I think those guys, including Geno Smith, are viewed as longterm solutions by their club. I don't watch enough football to be too sure about this stuff.