Packer/Queenie GDT

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Very ugly game...very ugly finish. Ugly....ugly...ugly.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Very ugly game...very ugly finish. Ugly....ugly...ugly.

look who's talkin

[Teamcheez1]

I think some of you are actually proud we tied that game.

This was on our home field against a team with only two wins the entire season, the same as the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's as good as a loss.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I think some of you are actually proud we tied that game.

This was on our home field against a team with only two wins the entire season, the same as the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's as good as a loss.

Worse then a loss after three straight losses...

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

look who's talkin

Hey, it ain't easy covering up your nose with your lower lip...

[Smeefers]

I think some of you are actually proud we tied that game.

This was on our home field against a team with only two wins the entire season, the same as the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's as good as a loss.

I would have prefered a win, but a tie is way better than a loss. For me, it means next week isn't a must win. The reason people sound happy is because we had no business even being in that game. The defense played horrible. If it wasn't for the massive injuries, i'd heap all the blame on capers. At this rate though, I'm still giving him 75% of it. There is massive talent on this defense. They can play better than this.

[woodbuck27]

Very ugly game...very ugly finish. Ugly....ugly...ugly.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I would have prefered a win, but a tie is way better than a loss. For me, it means next week isn't a must win. The reason people sound happy is because we had no business even being in that game. The defense played horrible. If it wasn't for the massive injuries, i'd heap all the blame on capers. At this rate though, I'm still giving him 75% of it. There is massive talent on this defense. They can play better than this.

'Massive talent'? Could you please elaborate? But I do agree they can play better, cause they can't play much worse.

[red]

well, can't say we didn't score enough to win this week

defense lost us the game today and they are just going nuts on the radio about it

"fire capers, and fire the next guy on the field that makes a mistake. make a statement" and i agree. what we have seen from the defense has been unacceptable. if raji doesn't want to be here anymore, then bench his fat ass. if tramon drops another int, bench him. if hawk misses another sack, get him off the field

do something to get the attention of the defensive players, these guys have to have some kind of fire lit under their asses

[red]

and flynn should have been in the game sooner. he doesn't have anywhere close to the same arm strength as tolzien, but the offense looks totally different with him at the helm

[pbmax]

Flynn almost has to start ahead of Tolzien, but its clear what happens when he is in there. It pulls the entire defense forward as its not clear he can effectively get the ball more than 20 yards down the field. Even his two long completions were highly contested.

But he is more effective than Tolzien.

This defense against the run game collapsed back to 2012 standards. Its clear they missed Wilson.

[woodbuck27]

This was a wild day for early games:



3 NYJ - 19 BAL... Stay alive for a Wild card with a big home win. The Jets are slumping.


27 PIT - 11 CLE... Big Ben comes through again today (2 TD Pass's) and Surging Steelers remain firmly in the hunt for a Wild card.


24 TB - 21 DET.... The LIONS lose another (2 straight loss's) and this one at home.


26 MIN - 26 GB ...... FINAL OT ....I'm without words on this game....right now.


13 JAC - 6 HOU .... The Texan's 9th straight loss.

The Jag's don't want the NO. 1 Draft pick.


41 SD - 38 KC ... The Chiefs lose again and that's 2 straight loss's.


20 CAR - 16 MIA ... The Panthers continue to roll winning their 7th straight.


21 CHI - 42 STL... The Bears get stomped on the road inspite of a solid day by Josh McCown. 39/42 for 352 Yards and 2 TD's

[Pugger]

It's kinda funny that people talk about Tolzien like he is a ruddy-faced youngster. Guy is 26-years old, in the prime of his career. He has little game experience, but he's been around the pro game for a while.

But no experience. Flynn looked more composed but he doesn't have much of an arm.

[bobblehead]

'Massive talent'? Could you please elaborate? But I do agree they can play better, cause they can't play much worse.

I love all the posters who make insightful posts like "ugly ugly game" and rarely post anything elaborate or thoughtful asking people to elaborate.

Massive talent. CM3, Perry, and Neal are very good talent at OLB. Daniels, Jolly, Raji, Datone, and Pickett are deep talent for a 3-4. Hayward, Shields, House, Tramon are deep talent at CB.

The problem is that we NEVER have the talent on the field together. Injuries are forcing us to play some very week players at all times and it is making the defense look worse than the talent is.

Now please come back with an elaborate post like "you're full of shit bobblehead."

[Upnorth]

After the first half I'm happy we tied, but still disappointed over all. One thing will make today good, riders winning the grey cup.