M3 Season-Ending Presser

[woodbuck27]

If he isn't going to air dirty laundry to the press how do you conclude he is having difficulty seeing our problems?

So is it simply your position that Mike McCarthy is a terrific bull shitter?

In a possibly more accurate or clearly focused way. A deceiver or worse ... liar?

[Pugger]

So is it simply your position that Mike McCarthy is a terrific bull shitter?

In a nicer or possibly more accurate way. A fricken lier?

I wouldn't expect MM to throw any of his charges under the bus in public. It isn't something a coach should do. If you want to call that being a bull shitter or a liar, be my guest.

[mraynrand]

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 11m
MM: First and goal call at 9-yard line using Cobb, got right defense, Cobb runs that play well, solid call, mistake made by run block unit.

That's an understatement. At no point did that play look about to work.

EDS was supposed to block the LB who got Cobb. Play shoulda gained 5 at least.

[mraynrand]

I HOPE it is just not airing dirty laundry, cause if it ain't, his responses seem to indicate his blinders have gotten even bigger and more entrenched. Does not bode well for the changes we need as a team to take the next step. And for every year we see this, is one more year toward the end of the Rogers window, and a return to the horseshit decades.

He spoke in generalities. Need more impact players, need more players to make plays. You don't need to dog pile on a specific players, coaches, or the GM to know what that means, that it implicates the whole organization.

[hoosier]

Here are the first comments per JSO:

Not going to get into specifics. But when adversity hits some go one way or the other. It's about the program. Everybody has to buy into program and when do that you get through. But things also show up you didn't know were there. People say this felt like 2010. Didn't feel like 2010 to me at all. This year was different. Important to stay on top of your culture. Really impressed with our young players.

There is not a huge difference but the JSO version does highlight his rebuttal of the 2010 analogy. Why was 2013 nothing like 2010? Probably because MM thinks certain players went "one way" rather than "another way" when adversity hit, meaning they didn't rise to the occasion but went into the tank. Which gets me wondering if it is possible for the naked eye to detect who went into the tank after ARod went down. Given its mid-season problems, the defense would seem like a likely place to start. Raji? The safeties? (But they were already worthless before Rodgers got hurt.) Any other bright ideas?

[MadScientist]

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 11m
MM: First and goal call at 9-yard line using Cobb, got right defense, Cobb runs that play well, solid call, mistake made by run block unit.

That's an understatement. At no point did that play look about to work.

Failure is the standard for the Packers run block eunuch. Either TT sucks and picking OL, or Campen sucks donkey balls as OL coach, or possibly both.

[pbmax]

Here are the first comments per JSO:

There is not a huge difference but the JSO version does highlight his rebuttal of the 2010 analogy. Why was 2013 nothing like 2010? Probably because MM thinks certain players went "one way" rather than "another way" when adversity hit, meaning they didn't rise to the occasion but went into the tank. Which gets me wondering if it is possible for the naked eye to detect who went into the tank after ARod went down. Given its mid-season problems, the defense would seem like a likely place to start. Raji? The safeties? (But they were already worthless before Rodgers got hurt.) Any other bright ideas?

He said at some other point he was surprised by some of the things adversity revealed and they were not all positive.

Might tie into Jones comments about people playing with their own agenda.

[denverYooper]

I'm taking that as sarcasm and therefore responding thus or in the totally opposite direction:

Let's all keep on believing and going with "blind faith"; because we're simply just a bunch of really ignorant of football football fans. Duhhhh !

Let's all buy right. All pushed forward all our chips ..Yup go all in with that pair of Jacks.

Wash it all down substituting "the Kool Aid that some drink here"; and almost insist on serving here ! With a more lethal punch made of "Kool Aid laced with cyanide".

Since when should the blind make us all blind?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

Tilting at windmills again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote

[woodbuck27]

From a denverYooper post above:

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 2m
MM: When adversity hits, people go one way or the other, lot of it good, some not so good. Everybody has to buy into program.

** Any Locker Room issues Mike?

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 3m
MM: Lot of information comes out during tough times -- this year during that stretch of losing games.

** Is all that a closely guarded secret Mike? If so how will us fans know your aware of the negatives and have reacted to correct those negatives?


Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky 3m
MM: It didn't feel like 2010 to me at all this year. Every year is different.

** Gee Mike!? You sure fooled a lot of Packer fans. Some of those right here on Packerrats. Shame all of us.

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 3m
McCarthy on Capers: "Once again, we're not even 72 hours away from the game. Dom Capers is an OUTSTANDING FOOTBALL COACH."

There's Mike McCarthy demonstrating his Irish and getting a tad defensive right there Packerrats.

** Announcing as the Packer DC for the next season. 2014 Season Version of DC DOM CAPERS ! Bigger and better that ever. Why!? Because Mike McCarthy informs us bluntly that Dom Capers is wait till I check.ahh yes..wait..OK we're informed that Dom's an OUTSTANDING FOOTBALL COACH. Great Mike so would he make a good Green Bay Packer Head Coach?

A Packer fan fights back.

I'm positive I'll eventually win this duel. That's NOT arrogance that's a fact. Count on it !

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 3m
MM: Dom Capers is outstanding football coach. No one will be evaluated today. Not going into this thing looking to make big changes.

** Should any Packer fan be surprized?

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 3m
MM: Things you like about program, and things you don't like or need to get better. With those areas we will change and adjust.

** Ohh Great Mikey ! When will that policy become effective Mike? In the 2015 Season when Packer Nation is screaming for your ass in a sling out of Green Bay?

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 3m
MM: Lot of opinions, lot of emotion involved, especially when you sit down and talk to players soon after season.

** Well imagine that !! I wish I could talk with you Mike.

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 3m
MM: It's important to go back and take emotion out of it, clear thinking, make sure we're in line with personnel department.

** Feeling a little HEAT Mike?

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 2m
McCarthy on if he learned anything on why injuries decimated team for third time in four years: "No."

** That's your BEST response to that very important question Mike?

All you've got there is a ... "no"!???? Way too many questions and that ! Holy fried up Jack Shit. Shove that between two pieces of rye and enjoy. Grab a glass of that Kool Aid to help choke it down. Get it down without regurgitating it.

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 1m
MM: Statistics are for losers, even positive ones. You have to look inside stats, make sure you have clear understanding.

** Mike ! When might we 'the fan (s) expect that you'll get there? You know in regards to "clear" understanding?? I'm all ears Mike ! What do you have on that today?

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 1m
MM: It's challenge to deal with injuries. I'm proud of team. We didn't get goal, not happy about that. Must find better way to keep healthy.

**Ahh Mike the pressure (stress) of that question. It's got to be rough. So tell us Mike. When you were informing Packer Natonn ... 1-2-3 seasons ago that that question of over the top injuries would be addressed in the off season did you get side tracked? Did that get shoved down your " REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO " list?

Pat Mayo-ABC @patmayo 1m
I literally just pulled my hamstring listening to McCarthy talk about injuries.

** Is that funny? Is that funny? Is that funny? I'm guessing you had to be there and so many havn't been this season.

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 43s
MM: Talking with players, some of them have opinions about having more impact players. We need more players making plays.

** Hey Mike was that a brain shot revelation? Weren't you aware of that and communicating that to Ted Thompson and if so why didn't Ted Thompson respond with positive rsults back to "YOU". Eh Mike...Eh!?


Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 47s
MM: This year seemed like it never stopped. Special teams extremely challenged with all the change there.

Then Mike? YOU ABSOLUTELY STILL LOVE Shawn Slocum as the ongoing ST Coach? Ahh Mike, don't even answer that. We get it Mike.

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 58s
MM: We're divisioin champs, we have work to do, there will be change on our team, average is 25% turnover, that will be no different.

Ohh sure Mike but you HC of a team that is 1-3 in the playoffs over the past three seasons; and your team one and out in the playoffs the last two seasons with as "YOU" inform us ... arguably the BEST PLAYER in Aaron Rodgers in the NFL? Yet your HC of a team that's an easy touch to toss to the side in the post season?

What do you say about that Mike?

Why do I do this?

Because I love the Green Bay Packers !

Because I Can't Stand Bullshit !

GO PACKERS!....GO PACK GO !

[Striker]

While I doubt he'll fire many assistants (if any), he was just as non-committal post 2008 season when they canned Sanders.

[denverYooper]

He said at some other point he was surprised by some of the things adversity revealed and they were not all positive.

Might tie into Jones comments about people playing with their own agenda.

I forgot about Jones's comments. It sure sounds like there was a faction that was vocal about mailing it in until next year or just playing to get theirs. Given that position group guys know the most about their own...

[woodbuck27]

I forgot about Jones's comments. It sure sounds like there was a faction that was vocal about mailing it in until next year or just playing to get theirs.

Good book ... interesting characters.

The DRAMA of life = The Green Bay Packers.

Right Now !!

[hoosier]

He said at some other point he was surprised by some of the things adversity revealed and they were not all positive.

Might tie into Jones comments about people playing with their own agenda.

The odd thing about it is, if this points to who I think it does, individual production this year was not what you would expect from someone who was prioritizing his own interests over the team's.

[ThunderDan]

I guess I don't understand what MM "owes" us as fans. He reports to TT and that is all.

That MM doesn't go into specifics or is firing anyone today is the action of a good coach.

MM and TT will sit down and evaluate every game, every player and every coach. To expect to have all of that done in 3 days after the season is ridiculous.

In a few weeks expect that announcements on the coaching staff will be made.

[denverYooper]

The odd thing about it is, if this points to who I think it does, individual production this year was not what you would expect from someone who was prioritizing his own interests over the team's.

Maybe his agent told him that he's got interest from teams very interested in using his skillset the right way.