M3 Season-Ending Presser

[Cheesehead Craig]

I can't believe people are up in arms because MM didn't come out all fire and brimstone saying Player X sucks, this coach sucks, I can't wait to cut this player and send this coach on his way. Have people not been paying attention the past few years? Even if he were to feel that way, he has too much respect for the individuals to air it out like that. Look at the comments TT and MM make after they get rid of players they obviously didn't care for, like McMillan. They are always voiced positively wishing the player the best, saying wish things had worked out differently, etc. It's just how they do business.

+1. Well said.

[ThunderDan]

So here is a link to the success of NFL teams from 2007-2011.

http://www.faniq.com/poll_results.php?poll_id=1409480&rnum=

The Packers are tied with the Steelers in second place for most wins over the last five years. NE is in first by a wide margin.

The Packers have the 3rd best playoff record over the same stretch while the NYG with two Super Bowl wins have the best playoff %. In the playoffs over the last 5 year we have a better % than NE. 5-3 vs 4-3.

[ThunderDan]

Here is an article for the past 20 years. I believe only Pittsburg has won more regular season games during that time frame by 1. The Pack is 203-117.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1306373-nfl-franchise-power-rankings-for-last-20-years/page/31

[Pugger]

I can't believe people are up in arms because MM didn't come out all fire and brimstone saying Player X sucks, this coach sucks, I can't wait to cut this player and send this coach on his way. Have people not been paying attention the past few years? Even if he were to feel that way, he has too much respect for the individuals to air it out like that. Look at the comments TT and MM make after they get rid of players they obviously didn't care for, like McMillan. They are always voiced positively wishing the player the best, saying wish things had worked out differently, etc. It's just how they do business.

No kidding. If MM came out in his presser bitching about players and coaches I would lose a hell of a lot of respect for him as a professional. We fans can miss and moan because we are fans but management shouldn't IN PUBLIC.

[denverYooper]

So here is a link to the success of NFL teams from 2007-2011.

http://www.faniq.com/poll_results.php?poll_id=1409480&rnum=

The Packers are tied with the Steelers in second place for most wins over the last five years. NE is in first by a wide margin.

The Packers have the 3rd best playoff record over the same stretch while the NYG with two Super Bowl wins have the best playoff %. In the playoffs over the last 5 year we have a better % than NE. 5-3 vs 4-3.

Is that 'Dick All'?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Here is an article for the past 20 years. I believe only Pittsburg has won more regular season games during that time frame by 1. The Pack is 203-117.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-years/page/31

Yes, no doubt we have been spoiled, but will we ever know if this was a function of the coaching? Or the fact we had two dominant quarterbacks during this time?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

No kidding. If MM came out in his presser bitching about players and coaches I would lose a hell of a lot of respect for him as a professional. We fans can miss and moan because we are fans but management shouldn't IN PUBLIC.

For me, the disappointing part was instead of remaining neutral before year end evaluations, he immediately stated support for Capers. Sorta took the suspense out of the evaluation process.

[mraynrand]

Yes, no doubt we have been spoiled, but will we ever know if this was a function of the coaching? Or the fact we had two dominant quarterbacks during this time?

Both, but even more, it's the legacy of Bob Harlan, hiring GMs that can run a team successfully without destructive interference from the board and the president.

[Pugger]

For me, the disappointing part was instead of remaining neutral before year end evaluations, he immediately stated support for Capers. Sorta took the suspense out of the evaluation process.

If you go back to threads about Capers this year I posted a few times saying I didn't think Dom was going to get canned. It was just a gut feeling I had. I do hope TT addresses the issues we have on D and gives Capers and company the pieces that are missing to improve this defense. We don't need the '85 Bears but an average defense with our offense can be good enough to go deep into the playoffs in 2014 and beyond.

[ThunderDan]

Yes, no doubt we have been spoiled, but will we ever know if this was a function of the coaching? Or the fact we had two dominant quarterbacks during this time?

And having GMs that drafted or traded for said QBs and coaches that have coached the QBs up to where they are performing.

Seems like chicken and egg to me. One helps the other.

[ThunderDan]

For me, the disappointing part was instead of remaining neutral before year end evaluations, he immediately stated support for Capers. Sorta took the suspense out of the evaluation process.

Like I said earlier, I think that was MM being defensive/supportive/loyal to his "guys".

I don't think the evaluations are over by any measure and I still wouldn't be surprised to see Capers and Slocum gone soon.

[mraynrand]

If you go back to threads about Capers this year I posted a few times saying I didn't think Dom was going to get canned. It was just a gut feeling I had. I do hope TT addresses the issues we have on D and gives Capers and company the pieces that are missing to improve this defense. We don't need the '85 Bears but an average defense with our offense can be good enough to go deep into the playoffs in 2014 and beyond.

APRH

[Rutnstrut]

It's all good, TT will go nuts in free agency and give Capers plenty of weapons.

[red]

It's all good, TT will go nuts in free agency and give Capers plenty of weapons.

LOL

[woodbuck27]

Is that 'Dick All'?

Not even a decent propaganda piece. A whole lotta denial is too obvious.

ThunderDan conveniently miss's the Packers playoff record from 2011 through 2013.

That's always going to be 'Only' one win and - THREE LOSS's.

So yes he comes back with "Dick All". As frustrating as the facts and that will remain.

You can't change the water on the beans once their cooked.

To refresh your memory:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/103963/missed-tackles-piling-up-at-alarming-rate

*** Missed tackles piling up at alarming rate

11/29/13 ...12:15 PM ET

By Rob Demovsky | ESPN.com

*** How'd that end up at Season's end? Was that result pleasing to you?

PACKERS !