Russell Wilson: Overrated?

[run pMc]

He's not top 5, but he might be Top 10...depends on your preference. If I could ignore his off-field d-baggery, I'd rate Rapelisberger over Wilson as QB.

I'd call Wilson good, maybe very good, but not great/elite. People will overrate him because he just won a Super Bowl. Fair enough, but Trent Dilfer did too.

[denverYooper]

Top 10... probably. He has tools to do well for a number of years, but we won't know how good he is until they have to start letting other premium players go to fit his next contract.

[Zool]

Baldwin is now probably their best receiver. Other than Lynch, what skill position players on Seattle are above average? Wilson is a good QB and only in his 2nd year. I assume he wont make the HOF or anything, but I bet the Vikings or Bears would take him in a heartbeat.

[run pMc]

Harvin, when healthy, is pretty darn good.
Tate's not a bad #2 or #3 but I'd take Jordy or Cobb over him.

Sidney Rice was good before all the injuries, back when He Who Shall Not Be Named was the Viking QB throwing him the ball. Now I think he's probably done in SEA and signs as a #3WR with another contender.

Wilson's receivers weren't that great, but Wilson's ability to scramble and keep plays alive along with effective play action thanks to the threat of Lynch are what made the difference. Tough to cover receivers -- even average ones -- for 5+ seconds.

[Rodgers12]

I took it off. Do you have a problem with that you little fucking bitch??

Check your PMs. I have sent you 100 threatening messages.

Seriously, I'm like Horatio in Hamlet. I am indifference about what happened to the cute moose avatar.

[Rodgers12]

I do think there are a lot of QBs that would have won with the Seagulls in that game. I mean a lot. Tavaris is probably on the list, but Russell Wilson is not a robotic game manager.

He was in the recent playoffs, IMHO, of course.

Then again, with that defense, Wilson didn't have to do anything but manage the game.

[Rodgers12]

Baldwin is now probably their best receiver. Other than Lynch, what skill position players on Seattle are above average? Wilson is a good QB and only in his 2nd year. I assume he wont make the HOF or anything, but I bet the Vikings or Bears would take him in a heartbeat.

Would the Vikings or Bears have won the SB this season with Wilson? Look at their defenses.

Like I wrote in the first post, it will be interesting to see how Wilson carries a team without a dominating defense. Wilson is certainly talented. Is he elite talented? Time will tell, obviously.

[run pMc]

Would the Vikings or Bears have won the SB this season with Wilson? Look at their defenses.

Like I wrote in the first post, it will be interesting to see how Wilson carries a team without a dominating defense. Wilson is certainly talented. Is he elite talented? Time will tell, obviously.

The Vikings would probably have won the division with Wilson at QB but still likely have lost in the WC round. Peterson running the ball and Jennings, Patterson, et al at WR would score points...but that defense would get exposed against better teams. Also, the way their OL played this year, Wilson might not have lasted all 16 games.

The Bears might have won enough games to take the division -- I'd take Marshall, Jefferies, Bennett and Forte over who SEA had as skill players (Harvin was hurt most of the year), but their defense was probably worse than Minnesota's. The NFCN was not a good defensive division and you need something that at least approximates an average defense to be a serious contender IMO.

I agree he's talented, but he has some convincing to do before we call him elite. Fortunately for him, that defense will be good for at least a few years (APRH), and Lynch's odometer can still add a few miles.
I read that Vegas had SEA as 9-2 favorites to repeat.

[Brandon494]

Besides height he has everything you want for a starting QB. Look at his stats as a 2nd year player and add the fact he just won a SB....I wouldn't say hes elite yet but hes for sure a top 8 QB in the league now. His numbers should only get better with Harvin in the mix next season.

[Pugger]

He's not top 5, but he might be Top 10...depends on your preference. If I could ignore his off-field d-baggery, I'd rate Rapelisberger over Wilson as QB.

I'd call Wilson good, maybe very good, but not great/elite. People will overrate him because he just won a Super Bowl. Fair enough, but Trent Dilfer did too.

This.

[LEWCWA]

I find it a little disconcerting, the lack of respect RW gets in here. When our great QB has to endure the same types of criticisms. Anybody could win with that team, He is good but not great! Well I think he has a little bit of Bart in him and all he seems to do is win.

[Smeefers]

Would the Vikings or Bears have won the SB this season with Wilson? Look at their defenses.

Like I wrote in the first post, it will be interesting to see how Wilson carries a team without a dominating defense. Wilson is certainly talented. Is he elite talented? Time will tell, obviously.

I think RW outshined manning in the superbowl. Hands down. Peyton had weak wobbly all over the place passes and Wilson was sharp and crisp. Game managers don't win by 35 points. He wasn't ineffective. He had a solid performance.

All the talk about how he would do on another team is moot. You have no idea how he would perform in a different system with different players. Would Rodgers shine as much as he does if he played for the browns? Would he still be a top 4 QB?

There's no doubt in anyone's mind that the reason Seattle won the super bowl was because of their defense. Absolutely no one is saying that RW carried that team on his shoulders. Are you implying that somehow tarnishes his playing ability?

[MJZiggy]

I find it a little disconcerting, the lack of respect RW gets in here. When our great QB has to endure the same types of criticisms. Anybody could win with that team, He is good but not great! Well I think he has a little bit of Bart in him and all he seems to do is win.

RW is still a kid. He's been in the league two years and when folks think of what Rodgers was like in his second year, maybe they'll get that RW is a great kid with a good head on his shoulders who has the potential to continue being a very dangerous football player. Yes, he has good players around him, but he also has time to grow with them. When you think about what he just did, and realize how long he has to refine his craft in his career, I'd think that that might be a little scary.

[pbmax]

He is the perfect QB at his current price. I wonder how much he will get on the next deal?

I doubt, though its only a suspicion, that he can pull a team along with him like Rodgers, Brady or Manning. Hell, even Rothliesberger. So $20 million per year might be to his detriment

But Flacco and Eli have done it with good not great defenses. He could easily be in that range. And that range is still darn expensive.

[Rodgers12]

I think RW outshined manning in the superbowl. Hands down. Peyton had weak wobbly all over the place passes and Wilson was sharp and crisp. Game managers don't win by 35 points. He wasn't ineffective. He had a solid performance.

All the talk about how he would do on another team is moot. You have no idea how he would perform in a different system with different players. Would Rodgers shine as much as he does if he played for the browns? Would he still be a top 4 QB?

There's no doubt in anyone's mind that the reason Seattle won the super bowl was because of their defense. Absolutely no one is saying that RW carried that team on his shoulders. Are you implying that somehow tarnishes his playing ability?

Game managers DON'T need to win by 35 points. Not when your defense and special teams are scoring points, as the Gulls did in the SB.

Take away Manning, Brady and Rodgers and replace them with game managers and their teams would stink. Take away Wilson and replace him with a game manager and the Gulls would probably still win the SB.

Wilson's playoffs stats weren't great. They were Alex Smithesque, and Alex Smith is a game manager.