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  • #46
    Originally posted by Rodgers12 View Post
    Game managers DON'T need to win by 35 points. Not when your defense and special teams are scoring points, as the Gulls did in the SB.

    Take away Manning, Brady and Rodgers and replace them with game managers and their teams would stink. Take away Wilson and replace him with a game manager and the Gulls would probably still win the SB.

    Wilson's playoffs stats weren't great. They were Alex Smithesque, and Alex Smith is a game manager.
    There's some chicken-egg going on here. If your defense outscores the other team, you play it differently and don't put up all the stats.

    So you watch both QBs play a few games and ask who has the skills and can make plays; who is a better leader, etc. etc. Wilson generally looks a little better than Alex Smith, mostly because he can make more plays with his feet.

    It's hard to imagine replacing Manning with any other QB in the Superbowl and having them look worse. I imaging Wilson QBing the Broncos would have done better!

    QBs always get too much credit and too much blame, so Wilson is probably being overrated right now, but he's more than a game manager.
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • #47
      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      It's hard to imagine replacing Manning with any other QB in the Superbowl and having them look worse. I imaging Wilson QBing the Broncos would have done better!
      Wilson probably would have just run the first play instead of trying to audible. No snap over the head. No safety. Maybe a 3 and out, but that has a bit different effect on the complexion of the game .
      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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      • #48
        It's Tank.

        He doesn't know what he's talking about, so none of us know what's he's babbling about, either.

        Your moose ran away, boy.

        Now you can't hide in it's shadow.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by KYPack View Post
          It's Tank.

          He doesn't know what he's talking about, so none of us know what's he's babbling about, either.

          Your moose ran away, boy.

          Now you can't hide in it's shadow.
          Send out the search team!

          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by LEWCWA View Post
            I find it a little disconcerting, the lack of respect RW gets in here. When our great QB has to endure the same types of criticisms. Anybody could win with that team, He is good but not great! Well I think he has a little bit of Bart in him and all he seems to do is win.
            Rodgers is the man, but he can really silence any other doubters he has this year. Looks like in a year period he will probably lose Jennings, Driver, Finley, Jones, and Quarless.

            2008: Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Lee, Finley. (Finley and Nelson were rookies)
            2009: Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Finley, Lee
            2010: Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Finley, Lee, Quarless
            2011: Jennings, Driver Jones, Nelson, Cobb, Finley, Quarless....sick
            2012: Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Cobb, Finley
            2013: Nelson, Jones, Cobb, Boykin, Finley, Quarless
            2014: Nelson, Cobb, ???? - Boykin is good but not really good (at least not yet)

            Depends on what happens in the draft and free agency, but 2014 is looking like the first year Rodgers might not have 4 or 5 solid options.
            Last edited by PaCkFan_n_MD; 02-07-2014, 08:33 AM.
            Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD View Post
              Rodgers is the man, but he can really silence any other doubters he has this year. Looks like in a year period he will probably lose Jennings, Driver, Finley, Jones, and Quarless.

              2008: Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Lee, Finley. (Finley and Nelson were rookies)
              2009: Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Finley, Lee
              2010: Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Finley, Lee, Quarless
              2011: Jennings, Driver Jones, Nelson, Cobb, Finley, Quarless....sick
              2012: Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Cobb, Finley
              2013: Nelson, Jones, Cobb, Boykin, Finley, Quarless
              2014: Nelson, Cobb, ???? - Boykin is good but not really good (at least not yet)

              Depends on what happens in the draft and free agency, but 2014 is looking like the first year Rodgers might not have 4 or 5 solid options.
              Jennings started 5 games in 2012. Cobb started 4 games in 2013. Finley started 5 games in 2013. Injuries killed the Packers O this season.

              Rodgers stat line for 2013 in 8 games + 1 drive

              193 for 290 66.6%
              2536 yards
              17 TDs
              6 picks

              He really should have silenced any doubters over the last 3 seasons, but that's why they are called doubters. They doubt despite overwhelming facts.
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              This is museum quality stupidity.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                Send out the search team!



                By sea, and by air!!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Zool View Post
                  Jennings started 5 games in 2012. Cobb started 4 games in 2013. Finley started 5 games in 2013. Injuries killed the Packers O this season.

                  Rodgers stat line for 2013 in 8 games + 1 drive

                  193 for 290 66.6%
                  2536 yards
                  17 TDs
                  6 picks

                  He really should have silenced any doubters over the last 3 seasons, but that's why they are called doubters. They doubt despite overwhelming facts.
                  Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 12m
                  RT @PFF: With drops factored in, Aaron Rodgers was the league's most accurate QB this season. Accurate on 79.3% of passes.

                  ...just to continue the threadjack.
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by QBME View Post


                    By sea, and by air!!
                    Guy's just a beast.

                    Vladdy's underrated.
                    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by denverYooper View Post

                      ...just to continue the threadjack.
                      humping, errr....Jumping the shark!

                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #56
                        All of nature submits to his will! (can Wilson say the same?)

                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #57
                          How can a guy who just won the SB- could have easily been mvp and making $500k a year be 'overrated' ? What 'rating system" are you looking at?
                          Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                          • #58
                            Might be underrated

                            Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by sheepshead View Post
                              Might be underrated

                              http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

                              LOL - total QBR; Flynn #39 after Joss Whedon; McCown #1 overall.

                              Is McCown underrated??
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                                LOL - total QBR; Flynn #39 after Joss Whedon; McCown #1 overall.

                                Is McCown underrated??
                                I know he's very close to over the hill. Is that the same?
                                Originally posted by 3irty1
                                This is museum quality stupidity.

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