MM's management style

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McCarthy has answered a few questions about his coaching methods and assistants.

Its clear his offensive staff is valued around the League (Philbin, Clements, McAdoo and Van Pelt have all been offered jobs or significant interview opportunities). Jimmy Robinson was very well regarded and left only to join his buddy in Dallas. Bennett seems to be a hidden gem and Campen, long before this year, has been a rumored hot commodity. That one is partially baffling, though to his credit his run blocking charges did well this year, putting some of the onus back on his previous personnel.

Campen also has a few development accomplishments now, with Sitton at a Pro Bowl level, Lang not far behind and EDS being good enough. He also still seems to do well with rookies and young players who need to develop quickly and become ready to start (Old Wig, Barclay, Newhouse, GVR).

Defensively its a far more mixed bag and Greene leaving doesn't clear it up. Whitt is rumored very well regarded (and I think it was reported they turned down a request to interview him from Atlanta). Perry was long considered a DC in waiting though recent events have left him a mayor of a town with a river fire. Moss means something to M3 and Hawk did return to his previous personal high level of play (your mileage may vary on whether that is good enough) and he just was promoted back to OLB coach which means they trust him not to screw something up.

Trgo is an old war horse but his charges have been 2 for 3 in recent underperformance. Capers is still skilled at what he does but what he does might not fit the organization on top of him. If they were all canned after the playoff loss, they would all have jobs next year is my judgement. So there is NFL talent there. Why it is not working on a more regular basis is a more complex question than "he sucks as a coach".

i think that whole offensive staff is riding a-rods coat tails

without a-rod we saw this team was a .500 team at best and assistants on .500 teams are not hot commodities

[mraynrand]

Yup. I have never been a big M3 fan, but have come to realize that we are stuck with him due to the Packers success over the last several years.

What could be worse than getting stuck with a perennial playoff coach and Super Bowl winner?

[mraynrand]

i think that whole offensive staff is riding a-rods coat tails

without a-rod we saw this team was a .500 team at best and assistants on .500 teams are not hot commodities

So you're saying a franchise QB is pretty important? Do you think you could find anyone to disagree with you?

The best thing about Rodgers is that he brought Tedford's offensive stratagems and QBing techniques and skills to Packers - otherwise that lumbering fool McCarthy wouldn't have a clue what to do.

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So you're saying a franchise QB is pretty important? Do you think you could find anyone to disagree with you?

The best thing about Rodgers is that he brought Tedford's offensive stratagems and QBing techniques and skills to Packers - otherwise that lumbering fool McCarthy wouldn't have a clue what to do.

i'm saying green bays coaches aren't shit without a-rod. it was in response to pb saying the coaches must be pretty good because they are always in high demand

i know its tough to read all the shit when all you really want to do is troll

[mraynrand]

i'm saying green bays coaches aren't shit without a-rod. it was in response to pb saying the coaches must be pretty good because they are always in high demand

i know its tough to read all the shit when all you really want to do is troll

It's not trolling to argue that your position is absurd, since the coaching staff had a lot to do with Rodgers becoming what he is. If you don't agree, I care not. It's sufficient to me to know that you're grossly wrong.

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so fritz, if he does stay 2 more years, he will have been the packers HC for 10 years

the second longest tenure in packer history only behind curly and his almost 30 years as a head coach.

after this next season he will have number all to himself, passing vince and bart, two packer legends though one wasn't a legend for his coaching

is he really that good? does he really deserve to reign that long in the most stories franchise in nfl history?

to me, he's peaked as a packer coach. i don't think he has what it takes to get us another super bowl, and he's just wasting the best years of our current HOF QB. and this last line can be applied to TT also

Because we were fingertips away from defeating SF (though we wouldn't likely have beaten seattle) I think MM has to stick for another year or two. His window is closing, not because he isn't good enough, but because NFL coaches do get stale and burned out. Look at Andy Reid, definitely stale in Philly, but he turned KC around big time.

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What could be worse than getting stuck with a perennial playoff coach and Super Bowl winner?

Yes, I remember them all, which is why I say we are stuck with M3 until we go in the shitter again. Look how long those piss poor coaches lasted. And while I acknowledge all the points the M3 supporters make, there is nothing wrong with wanting MORE, or something better for the Packers. I want another Super Bowl. Getting to the playoffs, and getting knocked out early is getting old.

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Because we were fingertips away from defeating SF (though we wouldn't likely have beaten seattle) I think MM has to stick for another year or two. His window is closing, not because he isn't good enough, but because NFL coaches do get stale and burned out. Look at Andy Reid, definitely stale in Philly, but he turned KC around big time.

i agree with the idea of coaches getting stale, and i've recently used the andy reid exaple

but to me, m3 and TT have already hit their expiration dates

[mraynrand]

Yes, I remember them all, which is why I say we are stuck with M3 until we go in the shitter again. Look how long those piss poor coaches lasted. And while I acknowledge all the points the M3 supporters make, there is nothing wrong with wanting MORE, or something better for the Packers. I want another Super Bowl. Getting to the playoffs, and getting knocked out early is getting old.

Sure, I'd like them to win the Superbowl every year too. Which coach is doing that? Who is even coming close to Stubby over the past five-ten years. You want maybe Tom Coughlin? He and Belicheat are close to retirement...

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That is true this year but one other year you had to beat your most hated rival to make it to the Super Bowl. The NFC North is not the AFC East.

And he has a couple of high seeds in addition to the two deep runs. So its not just winning the division at 9-7 every year.

You know damn well that we played 15 division games the season we went 15-1.

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You know damn well that we played 15 division games the season we went 15-1.

one and done

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i agree with the idea of coaches getting stale, and i've recently used the andy reid exaple

but to me, m3 and TT have already hit their expiration dates

I have trouble buying that. Injuries have sabotaged a lot of season for this team...now that could be partly to MM's practice habits, but things like Clay's thumb are not. And again, people worship SF around here, yet if Hyde pulls the ball in, or if Bush contains, we move on, and the great Harbaugh does not.

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one and done

And it sucked, but it doesn't negate the accomplishment. Half the teams in the playoffs go one and done...fire them all.

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And it sucked, but it doesn't negate the accomplishment. Half the teams in the playoffs go one and done...fire them all.

BTW, how did the team that beat us end up that year...probably lost the next game and flamed out huh?

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I have trouble buying that. Injuries have sabotaged a lot of season for this team...now that could be partly to MM's practice habits, but things like Clay's thumb are not. And again, people worship SF around here, yet if Hyde pulls the ball in, or if Bush contains, we move on, and the great Harbaugh does not.

and if detroit makes 1 more play over the last 4 or 5 weeks we don't even make the playoffs