Packers re-sign Shields, 4 year $39 million

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...erraun-verner/

Now the real question is, "Why did the so-called "top free agent cornerback" get signed for CONSIDERABLY less than the next two on the list? Also, I wish we would have brought him in as a complement to Sammy.

With this deal on the table, didn't we kinda, just, really sorta overpay for Shields?

It really depends on the guaranteed money and the structure of the contract.

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I expected that after a few days I'd warm up to having Sam back but I just can't get over the contract. This feels like an Al Davis scholarship to me. Actually pretty much every defender the Packers have on a 2nd contract right now is overpaid based on recent performance.

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I expected that after a few days I'd warm up to having Sam back but I just can't get over the contract. This feels like an Al Davis scholarship to me. Actually pretty much every defender the Packers have on a 2nd contract right now is overpaid based on recent performance.

Well, he is a bargain compared to Flacco.

Just keep repeating 2 years, its only 2 years, And $21 million.

[Brandon494]

I expected that after a few days I'd warm up to having Sam back but I just can't get over the contract. This feels like an Al Davis scholarship to me. Actually pretty much every defender the Packers have on a 2nd contract right now is overpaid based on recent performance.

I think its part of contracts getting bigger, I had more of a problem with the Clay Matthews deal then I did with this one. Especially after I saw what the Colts just paid Davis.

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I think its part of contracts getting bigger, I had more of a problem with the Clay Matthews deal then I did with this one. Especially after I saw what the Colts just paid Davis.

what, that he got pretty much the same deal as shields?

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I thought I saw that he got almost twice as much guaranteed.

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Shields is a much better corner then Davis, top 5 cover corner in the league IMO.

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I thought I saw that he got almost twice as much guaranteed.

Yea but Shields gets like 26M in his first 2 seasons so its pretty much the same.

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no details yet on the davis deal other then its reported he got 20 million "guaranteed"

however detail on one of the colts other big additions has become available. the team reported that arthur jones got 16 million "guaranteed"

the details on jones are coming out. the signing bonus is 5.5 million, the first years salary is also "guaranteed" (duh they just signed the guy, of course he's getting that) bringing up to 10 million "guaranteed". his second years salary is 6 million. if they "guarantee" that, you get 16 million guaranteed

if we use that same logic and apply it to shields, we get the 12.5 signing bonus, 1.5 million 2014 salary "gauranteed", 2.5 million 2015 salary "guaranteed" and the 2.5 million dollar roster bonus in 2015 which is pretty much "guaranteed".

and you get 19 million "guaranteed", very close to the "guaranteed" money vontae got on a deal that looks to be almost the same deal

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Shields is a much better corner then Davis, top 5 cover corner in the league IMO.

you think?

i don't think so. he's good, don't get me wrong. but i don't know if he's top 5

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He's definitely not top 5 at least not for me. Sherman, Revis, Peterson, Hayden are all much better. I'd rather have Talib, Verner, or McCourty. I'd probably even prefer Carr or Keenan Lewis and I'm sure there is someone I'm forgetting.

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He's definitely not top 5 at least not for me. Sherman, Revis, Peterson, Hayden are all much better. I'd rather have Talib, Verner, or McCourty. I'd probably even prefer Carr or Keenan Lewis and I'm sure there is someone I'm forgetting.

Based on coverage skills or all-around game?

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Based on coverage skills or all-around game?

I'll say all-around game, 90% of which is cover skills. Shields is awesome in that its a waste of time to try and get vertical on him but I just think that the bigger more physical wide receivers will get the better of him more often than not.

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Yea but Shields gets like 26M in his first 2 seasons so its pretty much the same.

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no details yet on the davis deal other then its reported he got 20 million "guaranteed"

however detail on one of the colts other big additions has become available. the team reported that arthur jones got 16 million "guaranteed"

the details on jones are coming out. the signing bonus is 5.5 million, the first years salary is also "guaranteed" (duh they just signed the guy, of course he's getting that) bringing up to 10 million "guaranteed". his second years salary is 6 million. if they "guarantee" that, you get 16 million guaranteed

if we use that same logic and apply it to shields, we get the 12.5 signing bonus, 1.5 million 2014 salary "gauranteed", 2.5 million 2015 salary "guaranteed" and the 2.5 million dollar roster bonus in 2015 which is pretty much "guaranteed".

and you get 19 million "guaranteed", very close to the "guaranteed" money vontae got on a deal that looks to be almost the same deal

Ifs guaranteed for injury only, then the second year is NOT like Shields, who has no such provision. But its an escape hatch for the team if he is healthy at the end of season 1. It could be a rent a player deal for one year since his signing bonus acceleration would be covered by his second year salary.