TOP FREE AGENT SAFETIES.....POOF

[Bretsky]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/02/21/ranking-the-2014-free-agents-safeties/

Is Clemons still there ? If TT had any aspiration of fulfilling that nightmarish hold through Free Agency....which I seriously doubt he did.....this was the wrong year to sit on his ass and wait for values..it appears

[3irty1]

Clemmons is still there. Are you also saying this is the right year to overpay?

[run pMc]

Counting Sam's signing bonus, I'd guess they're paying somewhere around $26M in 2014 for Sam, Tramon, and Burnett. They aren't going to sign a big name expensive safety.
If they sign a safety it will be in a few days for $2M/yr.

[Bretsky]

Clemmons is still there. Are you also saying this is the right year to overpay?

Are you saying every free agent safety that signed was overpaid ? Because I'm not buying into that.

[red]

Clemmons is still there. Are you also saying this is the right year to overpay?

what safeties were overpaid?

[Bretsky]

Clemmons is still there. Are you also saying this is the right year to overpay?

Was it right to overpay Sam Shields ? In a rising cap environment, sometimes it's ok to slightly overpay if you get a guy that makes an impact IMO. I'm still torn on Shields.
But it can be arugued we've certainly overpaid some 2nd term contracts of our own.

[red]

Was it right to overpay Sam Shields ? In a rising cap environment, sometimes it's ok to slightly overpay if you get a guy that makes an impact IMO. I'm still torn on Shields.
But it can be arugued we've certainly overpaid some 2nd term contracts of our own.

paying top dollar to our own is just part of doing business

paying market value or slightly more for other free agents though is negligent, and unsound

[Bossman641]

paying top dollar to our own is just part of doing business

paying market value or slightly more for other free agents though is negligent, and unsound

Name me a team who doesn't have an overpaid player. Jesus Christ, if the worst we have is Brad Jones I'd say we are pretty well off. For as much as a hard on as many posters here have the Seahawks, they are paying Zach Miller 7M this year.

It happens

[3irty1]

Are you saying every free agent safety that signed was overpaid ? Because I'm not buying into that.

I have no idea, I haven't seen any of their numbers. But if this is the wrong year for bargain shopping then I'm asking if that means its the right year for the opposite.

[3irty1]

Was it right to overpay Sam Shields ? In a rising cap environment, sometimes it's ok to slightly overpay if you get a guy that makes an impact IMO. I'm still torn on Shields.
But it can be arugued we've certainly overpaid some 2nd term contracts of our own.

Every one of them on defense I'd say, ones like Tramon, Burnett, Jones, and CMIII I could understand at the time but we haven't gotten our money's worth out of any of them. Pickett has been worth it but between age and pay increases he probably didn't quite earn his check last year either. No I don't think it was right to pay Sam. I'm starting to believe in the idea of the GB premium. The state income tax certainly doesn't help. There is a reason Florida has 3 teams.

[red]

Name me a team who doesn't have an overpaid player. Jesus Christ, if the worst we have is Brad Jones I'd say we are pretty well off. For as much as a hard on as many posters here have the Seahawks, they are paying Zach Miller 7M this year.

It happens

want a list?

TJ lang
brad jones
morgan burnett
tramon
hawk
bush
shields
maybe clay if his ass can never stay healthy and get back on the field and contribute

and guys that were recently overpaid but are now free agents
kuhn
finley
we tried to overpay raji

all those guys are or have been overpaid by us. if they were free agents that we signed from someone else, people on here would be crying about how we overpaid. but since they were are our guys, no big deal, that was fair

really the guys that aren't getting higher then market value pay are a-rod, jordy, sitton and the 40 guys on the team that are still on their rookie deals

[red]

I have no idea, I haven't seen any of their numbers. But if this is the wrong year for bargain shopping then I'm asking if that means its the right year for the opposite.

it seems to me like the guys you would hope would last a few days and then be had for bargain deal, went this year on the first day, for bargain deals

teams started the bargain shopping early this year

and when we're sitting on 30 million in cap space, yes this would be the year to pay MARKET VALUE for some decent guys that could help. not just guys that can come in to compete for a spot

[pbmax]

Jairus Byrd (6 yrs/$56 mil/$28 mil gtd)

Donte Whitner (4/28/?)

Antoine Bethea (4/26/)

Malcolm Jenkins (3/16.25/8.5)

T.J. Ward (4 yrs/$23 mil/14)

Mike Mitchell (5/25/?)



This can change depending on contract details, but other than Jenkins, how do you fit $5-9 million per year plus $8 mil guaranteed into the DB budget.

[3irty1]

Lang's not overpaid. I think Hawk is a stretch as well seeing as how he just took a cut and had a career year but certainly he's robbed us in the past. Bush makes less than starter money and is less than a starter, that seems fair. Kuhn is expensive for a FB but also isn't making enough to matter given his utility value. I agree with all the rest.

[pbmax]

The other thing to remember, is that the Packers have an inordinate number of FAs on the market (was it 16 when they started?), which means a lot of roster spots to fill. So a serious segment of that $30+ mil in cap space must be devoted to filling out the roster at roughly $1 mil per player.