TOP FREE AGENT SAFETIES.....POOF

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A top notch rookie safety can come in and play - to me, Clinton-Dix is the most NFL-ready guy.

I hear that Jimmie Ward has skills, but is he another four-years-to-develop prospect like Nick Collins was?

And how about the Wisconsin guy? What's the word, you Badger people?

His physical skills dwarf his results.

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A top notch rookie safety can come in and play - to me, Clinton-Dix is the most NFL-ready guy.

I hear that Jimmie Ward has skills, but is he another four-years-to-develop prospect like Nick Collins was?

And how about the Wisconsin guy? What's the word, you Badger people?

well thats just it. all season long, there was clinton dix, and no one else really worth looking at in the draft according to most scouting sources. then prior declared and it was those two, and everyone else was crap.

then the combine comes and the guys run around in their underwear and look all sexy, and all of a sudden there's 10-15 safeties that are good

for me its dix and pryor. those are the only two, the rest are projects and have big question marks

it looks like we're putting all our eggs in the draft basket for a new safety now that we didn't go after any yesterday or today. so, you got to hope that one of those 2 is still there at #21, or we're probably screwed again this year, and we just blew a more money on a secondary that's only as good as its weakest safety

[3irty1]

Nate Allen is still out there as well is he not?

[call_me_ishmael]

The fallacy of signing your own is silly. It doesn't cost any more or any less to sign your own. Everyone is getting paid the maximum dollar the market will bear. Raji didn't take a big deal becauase his agent put out feelers and was sure he could get more. Same with Shields. It's not like Shields took a low end contract to stay here. He got paid top dollar - maybe a little bit too much - but who cares because he's a good player.

I say get as many good players as possible. I would be all over Demarcus Ware or Julius P right now. It is a huge error in judgement to not address safety. They have zero chance at the superbowl next year unless they have an absolutely phenomenal draft - which recent history shows probably won't happen.

We have somewhere between 1-3 great players. The odds of drafting one aren't good. If you have the chance to get a special athlete, you take it. Period.

TT is a fine general manager but certainly not elite. I would welcome John Schneider or Trent Baalke.

[Brandon494]

The fallacy of signing your own is silly. It doesn't cost any more or any less to sign your own. Everyone is getting paid the maximum dollar the market will bear. Raji didn't take a big deal becauase his agent put out feelers and was sure he could get more. Same with Shields. It's not like Shields took a low end contract to stay here. He got paid top dollar - maybe a little bit too much - but who cares because he's a good player.

I say get as many good players as possible. I would be all over Demarcus Ware or Julius P right now. It is a huge error in judgement to not address safety. They have zero chance at the superbowl next year unless they have an absolutely phenomenal draft - which recent history shows probably won't happen.

We have somewhere between 1-3 great players. The odds of drafting one aren't good. If you have the chance to get a special athlete, you take it. Period.

TT is a fine general manager but certainly not elite. I would welcome John Schneider or Trent Baalke.

Lmao, outside of Reggie White, there have been no other splash signings but somehow its TT fault? You guys need to wake up and face it, players don't want to come to Green Bay. These other GMs can pinch athletes to come to their city, whats Ted going to pinch a 20 something year old guy to come to Green Bay? Even Woodson was viewed as a bad signing at the time and he only came here because no one else wanted him. Don't get me wrong once players come here they love Green Bay but if I wasn't a fan the Packers would not be one of my top choices.

[call_me_ishmael]

Lmao, outside of Reggie White, there have been no other splash signings but somehow its TT fault? You guys need to wake up and face it, players don't want to come to Green Bay. These other GMs can pinch athletes to come to their city, whats Ted going to pinch a 20 something year old guy to come to Green Bay? Even Woodson was viewed as a bad signing at the time and he only came here because no one else wanted him. Don't get me wrong once players come here they love Green Bay but if I wasn't a fan the Packers would not be one of my top choices.

Bullshit. I agree it's cold as hell, but you offer someone 200K more a year and they're here over a good, hot weather team. You offer the same over an average to bad franchise and they're here. BULL SHIT.

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Nate Allen is still out there as well is he not?

he's still available, chris clemons is still out there and generating no interest

Stevie Brown is out there, decent player who missed all of last year with a torn ACL

[mraynrand]

Lmao, outside of Reggie White, there have been no other splash signings but somehow its TT fault? You guys need to wake up and face it, players don't want to come to Green Bay. These other GMs can pinch athletes to come to their city, whats Ted going to pinch a 20 something year old guy to come to Green Bay? Even Woodson was viewed as a bad signing at the time and he only came here because no one else wanted him. Don't get me wrong once players come here they love Green Bay but if I wasn't a fan the Packers would not be one of my top choices.

Interesting. Do you think this may be an entirely intentional, contributing factor in the Packer's style of team building? If what you say is true, then it makes even more sense to build almost exclusively through the draft and rookie FA acquisition, because you know you don't have the draw of other places.

[Brandon494]

Bullshit. I agree it's cold as hell, but you offer someone 200K more a year and they're here over a good, hot weather team. You offer the same over an average to bad franchise and they're here. BULL SHIT.

Bullshit, you are a fan of the Packers so of course you feel that way. Also you think 200k is really going to change a players mind one way or the other? Crazy as it might sound to you people actually factor in location when making FA decisions.

[Brandon494]

Interesting. Do you think this may be an entirely intentional, contributing factor in the Packer's style of team building? If what you say is true, then it makes even more sense to build almost exclusively through the draft and rookie FA acquisition, because you know you don't have the draw of other places.

Pretty much how I always looked at it and why I've been a fan of TT since day one.

[run pMc]

Sorry, Lang is not the weak link in the OL. EDS is better at C than Lang, but Lang is light years better than EDS or Gerhart at G. I think Lang is better than Barclay, but I'm not sure I'd want Lang playing T. He's a G, and compared to what Saffold got paid, Lang is well worth his contract.

I just don't think they aren't going to drop $5M/yr on a S with all the money sunk in the secondary already. Signing Sam was a higher priority. Either they know more about Hyde's ability to play S or they will sign a second-tier FA. (I see I'm not the only one to mention Nate Allen, Clemons might be too expensive.) After that TT will target a safety but if HaHa is gone they'll look in the later rounds. I like Pryor, but I'm thinking he's more of a box safety than a cover/centerfielder safety, which is what they need at FS. I'm assuming Burnett is better at SS, and from what I've seen I think that's is true.

They also need someone who will communicate faster and better back there. If the secondary is doing a lot of switching they either aren't reacting fast enough or talking to each other enough.

[Bossman641]

Interesting. Do you think this may be an entirely intentional, contributing factor in the Packer's style of team building? If what you say is true, then it makes even more sense to build almost exclusively through the draft and rookie FA acquisition, because you know you don't have the draw of other places.

I think there's 2 ways to go with it. Either primarily draft-based or focus on older family-oriented veterans who are chasing a SB.

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I think there's 2 ways to go with it. Either primarily draft-based or focus on older family-oriented veterans who are chasing a SB.

Hello Champ Bailey at safety!!

[call_me_ishmael]

Bullshit, you are a fan of the Packers so of course you feel that way. Also you think 200k is really going to change a players mind one way or the other? Crazy as it might sound to you people actually factor in location when making FA decisions.

Nope. Former Packers on WSSP both agreed that this is no longer an issue. Players love playing in GB. You're treated like a pros pro, worshipped by fans, and given top notch accomodations. When it's cold as fuck, they are livin' in Cali, Phoenix, Florida, TX, etc. It's a none issue according to real NFL players.

[Brandon494]

Nope. Former Packers on WSSP both agreed that this is no longer an issue. Players love playing in GB. You're treated like a pros pro, worshipped by fans, and given top notch accomodations. When it's cold as fuck, they are livin' in Cali, Phoenix, Florida, TX, etc. It's a none issue according to real NFL players.

Like I said above for players who play here the town grows on them but just like Charles Woodson said...."I didn't want to come to Green Bay". Its not about just weather, most people prefer living in a city. If you're in your 20s night life is important to you, especially if you are a millionaire.