So if the defense is terrible again this season?

[Rutnstrut]

Average would be a huge upgrade over the last few years, I would be happy with average.

[Freak Out]

right on cue

Wrong thread.

[denverYooper]

Ahhh, the offseason where hope springs eternal.

[Fritz]

...they won't win the Super Bowl.

[Tony Oday]

Packers Win the SB over Manning to Avenge the loss when they CHEATED!!!!

Hyde should be extended now for 5 years since he will be the best Safety in the NFC next year

Raji Dominates and is gone in the offseason to make it rain

CMIII is hurt again but only for 1 quarter

Peppers gets 15 sacks

[denverYooper]

Whatevs guys, TT's hitting idkfa this year.

[gbgary]

if we're bad again it's on tt for keeping capers and drafting for o in 2014.

[Bretsky]

If we don't upgrade at safety and our D struggles there again all of packerrats should call Ted Thompson a complete dipshit for missing the boat AGAIN at that position

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If we don't upgrade at safety and our D struggles there again all of packerrats should call Ted Thompson a complete dipshit for missing the boat AGAIN at that position

nope, it will be injuries fault. nick collins injury to be exact. from 3 years ago

i base this on the fact that i heard it a few times this offseason as to why our d sucked last year, and the year before

[Bretsky]

nope, it will be injuries fault. nick collins injury to be exact. from 3 years ago

i base this on the fact that i heard it a few times this offseason as to why our d sucked last year, and the year before

On offense we've went long spells without several key players due to injury and we were just fine. Now w/o AROD we're screwed and we know that. But when AROD was there think of some of the injuries we've overcome and stayed well above water.

We're much better and deeper......... on that side of the ball.

[red]

On offense we've went long spells without several key players due to injury and we were just fine. Now w/o AROD we're screwed and we know that. But when AROD was there think of some of the injuries we've overcome and stayed well above water.

We're much better and deeper......... on that side of the ball.

and some would argue that with all the first and second round draft picks that are on the defense, we should be pretty deep there too

[Bretsky]

and some would argue that with all the first and second round draft picks that are on the defense, we should be pretty deep there too

Worthy is either lazy, a bad fit, or has been both so far. Perry belongs in a 4-3 and "before" the draft many in here noted that more than once. Either we're making sub par picks or not developing players on the DL

[mraynrand]

^^^ Worthy, like everyone else, was injured. Even though it's right on cue, it is really difficult to assess the defense with all those guys hurt.

It would be nice if we could just toss Capers into a burlap sack, beat him with reeds, and have the whole defense fixed, but it's probably not that simple.

But, this is getting repetitive. I'm gonna take a pass on this subject from now 'til camp....

[Zool]

So if what I'm reading is correct,

Injuries do not matter. It's an all or nothing proposition. If all 11 starters on D miss 8 games this year, the D should still be good no matter what. Anyone that says injuries are a factor is an idiot homer.

Does this about sum it up?

[red]

injuries happen in football, deal with it

and most of the major injuries last year happened to guys on the offense, and the offense still ranked 3rd in the entire NFL in yards and 8th in points per game

the defense lost their #3 cb, their OLB (and best player for about half a year), and a situational d-lineman (worthy). others might have missed a game or two for some bumps and bruises. but for the most part this unit was intact minus their best player for half a year.

they still ranked as one of the worst in the nfl

on offense, the until lost its best player (rodgers) for half the year, and the backup QB for the year. their #2 WR (cobb) for 2/3rds of the year, the top TE for for 2/3rds of the year. the starting LT or RT for whole season (bulaga), the other possible starter at tackle, or at least top backup (sherrod) for the whole season. their top RB (lacy) for a couple games, and some games missed by other guys here and there for bumps and bruises

if any unit should have sucked because of injuries it was the offense, yet they managed to overcome the injuries to still rank near the top