Finley getting 57th opinion on his neck today

[Cheesehead Craig]

Then you and I are on the same page.

mraynrand as usual wants to be contentious with his bullshit style of raisin HELL here.

The only agreement we have is that we don't believe that Finley will be here next season. I still disagree about your other comments on MM and Finley.

[woodbuck27]

The only agreement we have is that we don't believe that Finley will be here next season. I still disagree about your other comments on MM and Finley.

Disagreeing is OK Cheesehead Craig. I expect that from you. It's been my clear perception that we're not on the same page in terms of Packer focus and direction. The basis of my complaints:

I expect a lot from the Packer leadership.

Your disagreement isn't insulting or gone to where "the Problem Child" is so challenged to avoid. You don't post to trash as this other member does with such enjoyment. Your not sadistic to other members.

That BS never works with me. All that gets is double time from me or total disregard and disrespect. I make it a promise to myself tt wade right in or best ...ignore trouble and fix that fast.

On point....

I 've never understood "all the positive rage" and JerMichael Finley. How well has he produced?

JerMichael Finley has been overpaid as I've seen it for "only 20 TD's" in six (6) seasons.

He's been available for 70 games and started 48. He's had 223 receptions for 2785 yards and 12.5 Yards/Catch. He's been a continuing concern and a project to act sensible. His maturity issues have been obvious.

Now add the latest injury and prognosis for worse. Add his impetuous nature and given the non medical clearance to play again. Add contradictory reports of remaining a Green Bay Packer.

I rest my case on why are we coveting his future service.

[mraynrand]

Your disagreement isn't insulting or gone to where "the Problem Child" is so challenged to avoid. You don't post to trash as this other member does with such enjoyment. Your not sadistic to other members.

That BS never works with me. All that gets is double time from me or total disregard and disrespect. I make it a promise to myself tt wade right in or best ...ignore trouble and fix that fast.

[MadtownPacker]

Damn, do I have two bullets left in the chamber?

[mraynrand]

Damn, do I have two bullets left in the chamber?

If you have any left over, you know what to do.

[bobblehead]

Damn, do I have two bullets left in the chamber?

If not, call Aaron Hernandez...I hear he is willing to do contract work now that the Patriots have waived him.

[Rastak]

If you have any left over, you know what to do.

Damn, is that Wes slammin it down?

That takes me back.

[Scott Campbell]

I never imagined a bigger ASSHOLE could exist such as you. (mraynrand)

How soon they forget.

[mraynrand]

How soon they forget.

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Source on this?

Similar injury is not the same injury. Few players have returned from Collins injury. Many more have returned from Finley's injury. However, its not a lock every team Doc will clear him.

So his interest in other teams COULD be an indication that he wants to leave, or it might be an indication he MAY HAVE TO leave, in order to continue playing. Plus, either way it never hurts to have more than one suitor.

i thought we settled this?

they ARE the exact same injury. the procedures to fix the injury is different. collins got the old tried and true method while finely got some new age voodoo where they pretty much threw some spices and herbs at it and danced around in a circle and declared him healed

[pbmax]

Dammit! I can never keep it straight!

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?26532-Jermichael-Finley-What-might-the-Green-Bay-Packers-do&p=775312&viewfull=1#post775312

Partial redemption for Cub Reporter Hot Tub Chmura, Rob Demovsky confirms the same vertebrae involved with Collins AND Finley. McCarthy much more optimistic about Finley, obviously.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/118582/jolly-on-track-to-return-from-neck-surgery

Bonus news, Jolly likely to be cleared to play this year.

[pbmax]

Dammit! I can never keep it straight!

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...l=1#post775312

However, though it involves the same vertebrae, it may not be the same injury. Finley is still getting sniffs from teams, so there must be some hope the whatever sidelined Collins is not happening with Finley.

Yet.

3irty1 remembers it was stenosis that was the key factor for Collins being unable to return.

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However, though it involves the same vertebrae, it may not be the same injury. Finley is still getting sniffs from teams, so there must be some hope the whatever sidelined Collins is not happening with Finley.

Yet.

3irty1 remembers it was stenosis that was the key factor for Collins being unable to return.

we've been over that too. everything that collins his agent and his doctor said was that he did not have stenosis

as for teams still sniffing around him. you'll noticed that teams that have brought him in for a look haven't continued to sniff him

i think m3 saying over and over again that he wants finley back is just a clever way to get minnesota to sign his broken ass to a long term deal

[pbmax]

we've been over that too. everything that collins his agent and his doctor said was that he did not have stenosis

as for teams still sniffing around him. you'll noticed that teams that have brought him in for a look haven't continued to sniff him

i think m3 saying over and over again that he wants finley back is just a clever way to get minnesota to sign his broken ass to a long term deal

No, I think the initial report of no stenosis was from his agent. It turned out later that his outcome after surgery involved some complications, including stenosis which meant that even teams who had cleared others with the same fusion would not let him come back.

Given my track record here, I would not take my word for this, but I am, let's say optimistic, that this was the case.

I do know stenosis can develop after the surgery and after the injury even if the canal was normal prior.

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No, I think the initial report of no stenosis was from his agent. It turned out later that his outcome after surgery involved some complications, including stenosis which meant that even teams who had cleared others with the same fusion would not let him come back.

Given my track record here, I would not take my word for this, but I am, let's say optimistic, that this was the case.

I do know stenosis can develop after the surgery and after the injury even if the canal was normal prior.

i do know that when we discussed this a month or two ago i looked it up and nowhere on the net could i find where nick had stenosis