Official 1st Round Of The NFL Draft Thread

[mraynrand]

And why the hell did the Browns swap picks with the Vikings, giving up a 5th in the process? Did they really want Gilbert that bad and feared someone else would grab him? Would it of mattered that much? Felt like they just go antsy waiting for their pick and wanted to bud in line. That franchise just can't get out of their own way.

That 'someone else' can only be the Vikings. So the Vikings are saying "We don't really want this guy, but we can pretend we do, to extract a #R5 pick out of Cleveland" Then Cleveland says "Hey, they want this guy, but a #R5 pick will change their minds." Cleveland got schooled. they hold onto their wads, and they don't lose the #R5 pick.

[Guiness]

Have mattered.

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[Guiness]

That 'someone else' can only be the Vikings. So the Vikings are saying "We don't really want this guy, but we can pretend we do, to extract a #R5 pick out of Cleveland" Then Cleveland says "Hey, they want this guy, but a #R5 pick will change their minds." Cleveland got schooled. they hold onto their wads, and they don't lose the #R5 pick.

My thoughts as well. The old adage of letting the draft come to them - something Sherman never learned.

The 'someone else' I referred to was the fear Cleveland may of had that since the Vikings were willing to trade to them, why not someone else? That's jumping at boogeymen to be sure though.

[Zool]

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Fine then, would've

[HarveyWallbangers]

That 'someone else' can only be the Vikings. So the Vikings are saying "We don't really want this guy, but we can pretend we do, to extract a #R5 pick out of Cleveland" Then Cleveland says "Hey, they want this guy, but a #R5 pick will change their minds." Cleveland got schooled. they hold onto their wads, and they don't lose the #R5 pick.

Actually, it's possible the Vikings outsmarted themselves. They might have thought there's no way the Browns would draft the guy they wanted, so let's get a 5th round pick. I think they might have though. Paul Allen, the Vikings radio guy, is usually pretty plugged in on early picks. He usually talks up the guy the Vikings want, and he oftentimes correctly predicts who the Vikings will take. I've always felt like the organization uses him to get some good publicity on the guys they like. Anyways, a co-worker was telling me that Allen was really talking up Gilbert yesterday--even though most experts had Gilbert falling on their boards. I think he might have even predicted the Vikings take Gilbert.

[Guiness]

Actually, it's possible the Vikings outsmarted themselves. They might have thought there's no way the Browns would draft the guy they wanted, so let's get a 5th round pick. I think they might have though. Paul Allen, the Vikings radio guy, is usually pretty plugged in on early picks. He usually talks up the guy the Vikings want, and he oftentimes correctly predicts who the Vikings will take. I've always felt like the organization uses him to get some good publicity on the guys they like. Anyways, a co-worker was telling me that Allen was really talking up Gilbert yesterday--even though most experts had Gilbert falling on their boards. I think he might have even predicted the Vikings take Gilbert.

I can buy that - Vikings need help in the defensive backfield, and I'm sure they expected the Browns to grab Manziel in that spot. I did.

[mraynrand]

Actually, it's possible the Vikings outsmarted themselves. They might have thought there's no way the Browns would draft the guy they wanted, so let's get a 5th round pick. I think they might have though. Paul Allen, the Vikings radio guy, is usually pretty plugged in on early picks. He usually talks up the guy the Vikings want, and he oftentimes correctly predicts who the Vikings will take. I've always felt like the organization uses him to get some good publicity on the guys they like. Anyways, a co-worker was telling me that Allen was really talking up Gilbert yesterday--even though most experts had Gilbert falling on their boards. I think he might have even predicted the Vikings take Gilbert.

Interesting view. Seems plausible.

Could it be that Allen was providing a smoke screen for the team?
Plans within plans within plans....

[Rastak]

Actually, it's possible the Vikings outsmarted themselves. They might have thought there's no way the Browns would draft the guy they wanted, so let's get a 5th round pick. I think they might have though. Paul Allen, the Vikings radio guy, is usually pretty plugged in on early picks. He usually talks up the guy the Vikings want, and he oftentimes correctly predicts who the Vikings will take. I've always felt like the organization uses him to get some good publicity on the guys they like. Anyways, a co-worker was telling me that Allen was really talking up Gilbert yesterday--even though most experts had Gilbert falling on their boards. I think he might have even predicted the Vikings take Gilbert.

I heard Zimmer was pounding the table for Barr and wants to use him as a oft blitzing SAM linebacker. Greenway is going to be moved, likely to weakside.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I heard Zimmer was pounding the table for Barr and wants to use him as a oft blitzing SAM linebacker. Greenway is going to be moved, likely to weakside.

Where did you hear the pounding of the table? I haven't heard that. I thought Gilbert was an obvious projection to Minnesota because Zimmer had a very similar corner in Cincinnati (Jonathan Joseph). Teams can project after the draft that the player they got was the one they really wanted. I'm sure Spielman would say they had Bridgewater as their top QB now, but it sounds like they really wanted Manziel.

[Rastak]

Where did you hear the pounding of the table? I haven't heard that. I thought Gilbert was an obvious projection to Minnesota because Zimmer had a very similar corner in Cincinnati (Jonathan Joseph). Teams can project after the draft that the player they got was the one they really wanted. I'm sure Spielman would say they had Bridgewater as their top QB now, but it sounds like they really wanted Manziel.

Not literally pounding the table. I forget where I read that he was pushing hard for it. Gilbert would have been solid too. I did hear that Johnny football stuff also and it doesn't make alot of sense to me. He's pretty risky and I didn't sense that Spielman was into risks this time when it came to qbs.

[Just Jeff]

Did anyone else see the Packers draft room reaction after getting HaHa? Someone gave TT a fist-bump... man, I wish I had that as a GIF.

Wow, that looked so uncomfortable for TT. I think he thought he was in a fight.

[Rastak]

Where did you hear the pounding of the table? I haven't heard that. I thought Gilbert was an obvious projection to Minnesota because Zimmer had a very similar corner in Cincinnati (Jonathan Joseph). Teams can project after the draft that the player they got was the one they really wanted. I'm sure Spielman would say they had Bridgewater as their top QB now, but it sounds like they really wanted Manziel.

I should also note your scenario is feasible. Teams don't usually tell each over who they'll pick in these situations. I would also say that if they really really wanted Gilbert they likely wold have just taken him. I assume they had equal grades with Barr and maybe Donald so one spot isn't a big deal.

[mraynrand]

Did anyone else see the Packers draft room reaction after getting HaHa? Someone gave TT a fist-bump... man, I wish I had that as a GIF.

[Guiness]

What about Detroit? Ebron? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Pettigrew is signed for the next few years, and they've got enough guys to catch balls there with him, Johnson, Tate and Bush. Seems like an 'anti-need'.

[Brandon494]

I like the Lions pick, they went for BPA instead of reaching for need. All I know is that I'm selecting Stafford in fantasy this season with all the receiving options he'll have....plus they will have to score 35 a game to win.