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Yes, but that hasn't stopped Jones and Rodgers trying to go deep even against Cover 2 man which features a safety to help on both sides.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostObviously max
Was talking about getting single coverage over the top.
I tend to think Nelson has been asked to run a slightly different set of routes now that he is the #1 with no Jennings. That, plus the back shoulder throw probably have reduced his deep game.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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James Jones didn't have the speed to beat CBs though, neither does Boykin. Thats why I'm hoping Janis can make the 53 because I can see him playing a similar role to what Nelson played early in his career.Originally posted by pbmax View PostYes, but that hasn't stopped Jones and Rodgers trying to go deep even against Cover 2 man which features a safety to help on both sides.
I tend to think Nelson has been asked to run a slightly different set of routes now that he is the #1 with no Jennings. That, plus the back shoulder throw probably have reduced his deep game.
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OK, but Jones still regularly got behind them, whether it was route discipline, technique, size, or scheme fakeout. He just tended to drop the over the shoulder ones.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostJames Jones didn't have the speed to beat CBs though, neither does Boykin. Thats why I'm hoping Janis can make the 53 because I can see him playing a similar role to what Nelson played early in his career.
Boykin hasn't run that route much, I agree.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Did JJ have what they call deceptive deep speed? Not sure, but I recall them trying that throw to him. If Janis plays to his timed speed he'd be a load for a CB to cover deep. I hope he pans out for GB but think it will be a while before we know. Hard to expect a rookie from DII to do more than fight for one of the final roster spots.
Jordy is worth keeping even if he's nearing 30. He can play anywhere, and played well with a parade of backup QB's throwing to him. The answer to the $13M cap space question is pretty simple: sign Jordy and Cobb. They'll sign one midseason and let the other play out the contract and try to sign them with what cap space is left.
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Yea I don't see him making any impact this year besides on special teams, I do believe he'll make the 53 man roster though. I guy who will really step up this year at WR is Davante Adams, I see him taking the #3 spot from Boykin sometime this season.Originally posted by run pMc View PostDid JJ have what they call deceptive deep speed? Not sure, but I recall them trying that throw to him. If Janis plays to his timed speed he'd be a load for a CB to cover deep. I hope he pans out for GB but think it will be a while before we know. Hard to expect a rookie from DII to do more than fight for one of the final roster spots.
Jordy is worth keeping even if he's nearing 30. He can play anywhere, and played well with a parade of backup QB's throwing to him. The answer to the $13M cap space question is pretty simple: sign Jordy and Cobb. They'll sign one midseason and let the other play out the contract and try to sign them with what cap space is left.
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I think some of you guys are missing it on Nelson. It don't matter if he's the 10th or 100th most "talented" receiver. Some guys get it fed to them more (which isn't Rodgers MO), but he's Top 1 when you look at efficiency and effectiveness with his opportunities.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostTo be perfectly honest I don't put a premium on either one. Both are great players and better men but neither are deep threats or red zone monsters who get paid the big bucks. Jordy used to be but its been a few seasons since I've seen him blow by a DB and catch one over his shoulder. He's already made that Driver type transition where he's just so good at everything else he can afford to age.
Chalk it up to being "pretty good," "Top 10 talent", chemistry with the QB or whatever Madden rating you want to compare him to others on. None of it changes the facts when it comes to getting it done.
Jordy Nelson 2013 Sampler
Jordy "Blows by a DB and Catches One Over His Shoulder" for 6
5 Bears Can't Get Jordy Down
How to Make a Double Move
Nelson Makes DB Look Silly Once Again
How'd He Even See That Ball
Need a Guy to Break a Long One from the Slot?
Too Much for All-Pro Hayden in the Red Zone
Nelson Gets Deep Then Goes Horizontal
Another Acrobatic Catch
And Another
Here's the Best One Yet (OK not from 2013 but it's just too good
Jordy Puts Lion DB on His Back in the Red Zone
Jordy Makes Viking Look Ill
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I think Jordy gets signed before the season starts. They'll wait and make sure Cobb is the same player he was before the broken leg before offering him a big extension.Originally posted by run pMc View PostDid JJ have what they call deceptive deep speed? Not sure, but I recall them trying that throw to him. If Janis plays to his timed speed he'd be a load for a CB to cover deep. I hope he pans out for GB but think it will be a while before we know. Hard to expect a rookie from DII to do more than fight for one of the final roster spots.
Jordy is worth keeping even if he's nearing 30. He can play anywhere, and played well with a parade of backup QB's throwing to him. The answer to the $13M cap space question is pretty simple: sign Jordy and Cobb. They'll sign one midseason and let the other play out the contract and try to sign them with what cap space is left.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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