Will Cobb earn the big contract many are expecting?

[Patler]

This article from JSO is less than enthusiastic:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...270266911.html

Too inconsistent?
Too limited?
Too often injured?

Will others make him expendable?

[Joemailman]

I think Cobb will get a 2-3 year extension while the Packers determine whether Cobb, Adams or someone else is capable of being their #2 WR.

[Patler]

I think Cobb will get a 2-3 year extension while the Packers determine whether Cobb, Adams or someone else is capable of being their #2 WR.

Will he take that? He has a big year in the bank that could get him a bigger contract for more years from a receiver-starved team.

[Just Jeff]

It would be a shame if he did. AR has and will make his WR look like #1s. All Packer WRs should have to "tip" AR 20% of their salary. I don't think that even Jordy would be opposed to that.

[hoosier]

Cobb adds an element of quickness and elusiveness to the Packer offense that nobody else on the current roster can provide. TT has done a nice job of finding receivers whose strengths complement each other. Letting Cobb go would deprive the offense of one of its most explosive components. I have no idea what Cobb would or wouldn't be willing to consider for a second contract, but assuming his expectations aren't unreasonable I expect TT makes sure he stays in GB.

[TravisWilliams23]

It will be interesting to see what J Jones does in Oakland this year. If he has crappy numbers there and Jennings doesn't light it up in Minny again, GM's might have second thoughts about just how good GB's receivers are absent Rodgers.

[red]

in this day and age where one neck injury or a concussion can cut your career short at anytime, i just don't see why any player would give a team a massive "hometown discount", or sign a short "prove it" deal, when he doesn't have much to prove

he can, and should receive jordy money. if we won't give that to him, someone will

[Guiness]

in this day and age where one neck injury or a concussion can cut your career short at anytime, i just don't see why any player would give a team a massive "hometown discount", or sign a short "prove it" deal, when he doesn't have much to prove

he can, and should receive jordy money. if we won't give that to him, someone will

I don't know that he'll get Jordy money, but I wouldn't be surprised with something close. He's missed time all three of his seasons, that is going to hurt him.

I don't put much stock in a hometown discount, but for the same injury reasons as you stated, I think the 'get it early' discount could be significant if they continue to negotiate during the season.

[pbmax]

in this day and age where one neck injury or a concussion can cut your career short at anytime, i just don't see why any player would give a team a massive "hometown discount", or sign a short "prove it" deal, when he doesn't have much to prove

he can, and should receive jordy money. if we won't give that to him, someone will

I agree that the hometown discount as an argument to accept less is ludicrous. But Cobb isn't getting Nelson money yet. I think he will get a good deal more than Nelson did on his second contract.

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Year     Age  G GS  Rec  Yds  Y/R   TD  Lng  R/G  Y/G  Att  Yds   TD  Lng  Y/A  Y/G  A/G YScm RRTD Fmb AV
2008      23 16  2   33  366 11.1    2   29  2.1 22.9                                     366    2   0  3
2009      24 13  0   22  320 14.5    2   51  1.7 24.6                                     320    2   3  3
2010      25 16  4   45  582 12.9    2   80  2.8 36.4                                     582    2   3  5
2011      26 16  9   68 1263 18.6   15   93  4.3 78.9                                    1263   15   0 15
2012      27 12 10   49  745 15.2    7   73  4.1 62.1                                     745    7   0  7
2013      28 16 16   85 1314 15.5    8   76  5.3 82.1                                    1314    8   0 11
Career       89 41  302 4590 15.2   36   93  3.4 51.6                                    4590   36   6 44

                   Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush                 
Year     Age  G GS  Rec  Yds  Y/R   TD  Lng  R/G  Y/G  Att  Yds   TD  Lng  Y/A  Y/G  A/G YScm RRTD Fmb AV
2011      21 15  0   25  375 15.0    1   61  1.7 25.0    2    5    0    4  2.5  0.3  0.1  380    1   3  7
2012      22 15  8   80  954 11.9    8   39  5.3 63.6   10  132    0   28 13.2  8.8  0.7 1086    8   4 11
2013      23  6  4   31  433 14.0    4   48  5.2 72.2    4   78    0   67 19.5 13.0  0.7  511    4   0  4
Career       36 12  136 1762 13.0   13   61  3.8 48.9   16  215    0   67 13.4  6.0  0.4 1977   13   7 22

[3irty1]

Seems to me the money on a deal has more to do with the market for the particular mold of player than anything else.

The market for Boldin, James Jones mold of WR is consistently less than what fans predict. The "9 route" specialist guys like Mike Wallace and Vincent Jackson consistently break the bank. Cobb is a slot receiver and with 70% of the passes in the NFL right now being in the middle of the field I'd think he'd be a hot commodity. He's not totally proven but he's more proven than Percy Harvin was (although Harvin also appeals to the 9 route crowd as well). I think Cobb is due something on the order of what Welker got. He's still ascending, a little more versatile than Welker, and comparable in character. Welker is obviously more proven and durable so should get more up front.

[KYPack]

Good post, 31.

They all pay more for streak route guys bc everybody like to hit streak routes.

Wallace proves that can be fools gold.

Mike Wallace outta be arrested for his contract, he steals money every week he gets paid.

[Joemailman]

Will he take that? He has a big year in the bank that could get him a bigger contract for more years from a receiver-starved team.

But to do that he has to play out his contract and risk a career-altering injury this year. Before the season starts I could see him getting something like a 3 year, $20 million extension with a pretty healthy signing bonus. At the end of the contract, he'd still only be 27 (he just turned 24), and be in line for one more big contract similar to what Jordy just got.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't think he'll get Jordy money from the Packers. I did have concerns about the way Cobb looked after he returned last year. Slower and a bit out of shape. I chalked it up to rust, but his seemingly pedestrian play in training camp gas me worried. I hope he rebounds to pre-injury level, but I'm not sure it's a given.

[texaspackerbacker]

I think Ted Thompson did what we have seen him do before: draft to the position of the upcoming negotiations to give the team some leverage. Of the two, Nelson and Cobb, I considered Nelson the much more necessary to retain even before the draft. Even though he is so much younger, I just don't trust Cobb as much to stay healthy. I guess we can take kick returns out of the equation, and it just doesn't seem like Cobb has the zip he had when he first came to the Packers.

If he has a good year, he will price himself out of the range the Packers are ready to pay, and if he doesn't have a good year, we are better off moving forward without him.

[vince]

I haven't seen any of training camp but I've read enough of McGinn to know about his tendency toward contrarianism and pot-stirring. I'm not real surprised Cobb's looked unspectacular in practice. He doesn't need to impress the coaches and knowing him is probably focusing his time on more minute parts of his game.

Cobb has always struck me as a really effective, yet somewhat unspectacular player who makes things look easier than they really are. He's not really jukey or shifty like Driver and Jennings were/are, but it seems like every time you look up he just gained about 10 more yards than you thought he did because he's always been really efficient with his movements. Same thing from the backfield. Maybe that's a little vague description but he's elusive in s vague way too. He'll make someone take a bad angle and miss but he seems to do it 5 yards before the contact would have happened rather than at the point so it's not as noticeable or spectacular as even Lacy with a spin move. Not sure what his YPC is but I bet it's really high. In practice with no tackling I can see how he'd look pedestrian but there's not much pedestrian about his football skills or productivity with the ball in his hands.

The only thing that'll keep him from being elite IMO in the upcoming years is health. I'm no doctor but I don't know of any reason why a broken bone would have a permanent or even lasting impact on his quickness or speed. I'm looking at tendencies and saying McGinn's blowing smoke.