Flynn or Tolzien?

[Guiness]

Who's got the inside track for backup QB, Flynn or Tolzien? Flynn came in first last night, but Tolzien seems to be playing better.

[pbmax]

Flynn looks like the definition of stop gap right now.

Tolzien looks like a future starter, though not a franchise guy. If you keep two I think you have to keep Tolzien at this point, as he clearly was the better QB last night.

[smuggler]

I was going Flynn until last night. Scoots it is.

[ThunderDan]

I think you can cut Flynn and no one will pick him up.

If you cut Tolzien, I think he might get picked up by someone.

[pbmax]

I think you can cut Flynn and no one will pick him up.

If you cut Tolzien, I think he might get picked up by someone.

The Texans or Jets might start him Week 1.

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tolzien looks good this preseason going against other teams 2nd and 3rd stringers. he looked like hell last year playing in games that mattered up against real players

flynn on the other hand looked good last year against real players, but has looked like hell against 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason

i know what kind of backup flynn is, tolzien still scares me based on last year

[Patler]

tolzien looks good this preseason going against other teams 2nd and 3rd stringers. he looked like hell last year playing in games that mattered up against real players

flynn on the other hand looked good last year against real players, but has looked like hell against 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason

i know what kind of backup flynn is, tolzien still scares me based on last year

That's where I am at. We have seen Flynn succeed playing with the 1's against the other team's 1's in games that matter. We have not seen the same from Tolzien, so there is more uncertainty with him.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

For this year I would want Flynn. I think Tolzien is getting a lot better though and with one more year he should be ready to play if needed. You might need to keep 3 Qbs this year unless Tolzien is ready now. Hopefully it won't matter who we keep.

[pbmax]

tolzien looks good this preseason going against other teams 2nd and 3rd stringers. he looked like hell last year playing in games that mattered up against real players

flynn on the other hand looked good last year against real players, but has looked like hell against 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason

i know what kind of backup flynn is, tolzien still scares me based on last year

I don't think Flynn looked good in general. He looked good in one sense. He did not throw the ball to the other team. Without looking it up, I think what he did better than Tolzien was not throw interceptions. That is good, but very limited.

If Tolzien has worked that out and become more careful, then he is superior in all respects. I agree though, perhaps not until he gets first half snaps next week, we might not know whether that will hold against starters.

Aaron Nagler blew up on Twitter at the idea that Flynn was outplayed. He castigated the team for playing Janis while Flynn was on the field. But Janis was a key reason Flynn looked good last week.

[smuggler]

Aaron Nagger can go sit on a brick.

[Pugger]

tolzien looks good this preseason going against other teams 2nd and 3rd stringers. he looked like hell last year playing in games that mattered up against real players

flynn on the other hand looked good last year against real players, but has looked like hell against 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason

i know what kind of backup flynn is, tolzien still scares me based on last year

Of course last year when Tolzien was pushed into service after Wallace got hurt he had no clue what he was doing and it showed. I think he looks light-years better this summer. We won't know who will be our #2 until after next week's game against KC.

[Pugger]

I don't think Flynn looked good in general. He looked good in one sense. He did not throw the ball to the other team. Without looking it up, I think what he did better than Tolzien was not throw interceptions. That is good, but very limited.

If Tolzien has worked that out and become more careful, then he is superior in all respects. I agree though, perhaps not until he gets first half snaps next week, we might not know whether that will hold against starters.

Aaron Nagler blew up on Twitter at the idea that Flynn was outplayed. He castigated the team for playing Janis while Flynn was on the field. But Janis was a key reason Flynn looked good last week.

But that was a real bad pick Matt threw last night after we got a turnover.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Flynn's had some big games as a reliever. But he's also not played well at other places in his career. So I think you have to say his record is mixed.

The notion that Tolzien needs to wait for another year of seasoning is unreasonably timid. You have to aggressively promote players when they are ready, and he is ready. If you wait until you think you've got no risk you've wasted too much gain.

The only thing I am sure of is that Tolzien has made the 53, he is far too valuable to give away. If Flynn puts in a decent performance next week, I'm fine with either guy as backup, and I stubbornly insist either guy would draw a decent draft pick as soon as the QB shortage hits inseason.

[Carolina_Packer]

Flynn's had some big games as a reliever. But he's also not played well at other places in his career. So I think you have to say his record is mixed.

The notion that Tolzien needs to wait for another year of seasoning is unreasonably timid. You have to aggressively promote players when they are ready, and he is ready. If you wait until you think you've got no risk you've wasted too much gain.

The only thing I am sure of is that Tolzien has made the 53, he is far too valuable to give away. If Flynn puts in a decent performance next week, I'm fine with either guy as backup, and I stubbornly insist either guy would draw a decent draft pick as soon as the QB shortage hits inseason.

HH, you may be right about the trade part. Not that history always indicates what will happen, can you think of in-season back-up QB trades where a team was addressing an injury need? I'm sure there have been, but I can't think of any in recent past (not counting the John Hadl trade )

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'd rather have Tolzien as the #2. As Pugger said, he looked like shit but that was with very little prep time last year. He's much better this year and to me has a higher ceiling than Flynn.