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**Patler** · 08-24-2014, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post

That writer could be wrong, since they just changed the rules to add two vet players to practice squad.

But doesn't matter, Tolzien gets picked-up off waivers if he is cut.

Originally posted by run pMc View Post

Yep.

As I understand it, a player can still spend only three years on practice squads. Tolzien has used those up.

They made some changes to practice squad eligibility of players who have been on active rosters, but I don't think that helps Tolzien at all because he has already used up his three years on practice squads.

**HarveyWallbangers** · 08-24-2014, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by CaliforniaCheez View Post

Tolzien is practice squad eligible.

He has been on the game day roster for only 3 games in his career. You are eligible until the 10th game active.

This season with the expansion of 2 spots on the practice squad those 2 are allowed to be over the 3 year limit. There are new rules this year and you may want to read about it.

http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-ti...ad-eligibility

Not according to every beat writer. Wilde verified via a Twitter post. Something about Tolzien being in his 4th year and players with 3 or less years being eligible.

**CaliforniaCheez** · 08-24-2014, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post

Not according to every beat writer. Wilde verified via a Twitter post. Something about Tolzien being in his 4th year and players with 3 or less years being eligible.

Will you read the link provided? Please.

Now, what about my original post wherein there is the possibility that the Packers pay Tolzien enough to keep him on the practice squad?

It does not have to be an either/or question. The Packers are more creative than that and have the cap space.

**vince** · 08-24-2014, 03:17 PM

Second, each club will be permitted to sign a maximum of two Practice Squad players who have earned no more than two accrued seasons of free agency credit. Absent this exception, a player who has earned one or more accrued seasons would not be eligible for a Practice Squad unless the player spent fewer than nine games on a club’s 46-player active list in each of his accrued seasons.

It's a tad unclear as I'm reading it but while this is Tolzien's fourth year he was on the Packers active roster the final 8 games, which are the only games he's ever been active. On the one hand he seems to have too many accrued seasons but on the other he has never been active more than 8 games in any season...

It does read like he'd be PS-eligible but that article summation/interpretation from ESPN may not be worded quite properly...

**Harlan Huckleby** · 08-24-2014, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by CaliforniaCheez View Post

[B]Now, what about my original post wherein there is the possibility that the Packers pay Tolzien enough to keep him on the practice squad?

I read somewhere that San Fran's backups are struggling. Tolzien has trained in the San Fran system. Even without 49er interest, Tolzien likely would not clear waivers.

If you continue to harp on this practice squad stuff, I'm going to ask Madtown to give you a little timeout.

**Patler** · 08-24-2014, 04:03 PM

I think the "no more than 3 years on practice squads" trumps everything. Tolzien has had that.

**Harlan Huckleby** · 08-24-2014, 04:13 PM

I think there is zero chance that Tolzien will be cut, he's made the roster. The question is only whether the Packers would keep Flynn if Tolzien beats him out.

**red** · 08-24-2014, 04:59 PM

let tolzien get most of the snaps in the next game

then ship him off to st. louis for a mid round pick

the audition was last year in games that mattered, and flynn won hands down

**Pugger** · 08-24-2014, 06:20 PM

We better keep both. With all of the injuries starting to mount yet again who's to say Rodgers won't be next?

**pbmax** · 08-24-2014, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by CaliforniaCheez View Post

Will you read the link provided? Please.

Now, what about my original post wherein there is the possibility that the Packers pay Tolzien enough to keep him on the practice squad?

It does not have to be an either/or question. The Packers are more creative than that and have the cap space.

It IS an either/or question regarding eligibility. He either is or is not eligible. If he doesn't qualify for PS, then pay scale is meaningless.

NFL CBA Series: Credited vs. Accrued Seasons

http://in2theleague.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/nfl-cba-series-credited-vs-accrued-seasons/

In the NFL, experience is worth more than its impact on the field. It can affect a player’s pocketbook, as well as his benefits when he leaves the game. The NFL determines the experience of its vet…

Accrued Seasons

Accrued Seasons determine a player’s free agency designations (Art. 8, Sec. 1, 34).

The faster one accrues seasons the faster they can reach free agency, where, especially given the addition of the Rookie Compensation Pool, the bigger money is. If a player hits free agency at a young enough age, they could secure two or three large contracts through free agency.

In order to accrue a season, a player must be on (or should have been on) full pay status for six or more regular season games.

As with players earning Credited Seasons, a player can’t accrue seasons if he is on the Exempt Commissioner Permission List, the Reserve PUP List, a team’s practice squad, or the Injured Reserve List.

You cannot have more than 2 and be eligible for PS even under the new rules. I think without research we can all agree Tolzien met that requirement last season.

Now what about 2011?

Week 1 Not Active: QB 3 S.Tolzien, WR 10 K.Williams, S 38 D.Goldson, G 67 D.Kilgore, G 78 M.Person, DT 93 I.Williams, DT 96 D.Dobbs

NFL.com | Official Site of the National Football League

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/55175/SF_Gamebook.pdf