Flynn or Tolzien?

[esoxx]

Tolzien pls.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Flynn is a known commodity. He has a tendency to not look good in practice but shine in actual games.

Tolzien I saw in the preseason when he was with the 49'ers and I thought the 49'ers should have kept him. He looked good for a young QB.
Last year with the Packers I don't think he knew the playbook all that well. He has more potential. He is 26 Flynn is 29.

Ted looks long term. Tolzien is practice squad eligible. The Packers may pay him extra to stay on their practice squad.
If he clears waivers Ted looks wise and gutsy and he keeps both.

Right now I think it is a coin flip. Whoever is the more accurate passer this next week is the likely winner.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Tolzien is practice squad eligible.

Tolzien is not practice squad eligible.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/columnists/dougherty/2014/08/23/packers-cant-afford-keep-tolzien-flynn/14483513/

Pete Dougherty doesn't think so much of Tolzien or Flynn, so the Packers should only keep one. He gives the example of the Patriots with better backups, Ryan Mallett and Jimmy Garoppolo, who might be wise to keep three and get some trade value out one of the backups down the road.

Jaguars traded Blaine Gabbert to 49ers for 6th last spring
Raiders got a 7th for Terrelle Pryor from Seattle

There are a lot of trades for unheralded backups, but I can't remember anything during fall season.

[King Friday]

I go with Flynn. Tolzien is a decent prospect, but his only production has come against scrubs in the vanilla environment of the preseason. Tolzien may have better measureables and probably has a slightly higher ceiling than Flynn along with being younger, but he's never going to be the starter in GB because Rodgers has another 6-8 years anyway. Keeping a backup who is HUNGRY to get his chance at being a starter someday is foolish IMO for the Packers. It just means you need to find and train a new backup 2 years down the road.

What the Packers need is that Doug Pederson type QB...and I think that is what Flynn is. He had his chance to be a starter in the league and failed. He knows he is a career backup at this point. He has more value to Green Bay than anyone else due to his knowledge of the system and players. He can fill in for 2-4 games and keep the team afloat if need be.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Tolzien is not practice squad eligible.

Tolzien is practice squad eligible.

He has been on the game day roster for only 3 games in his career. You are eligible until the 10th game active.

This season with the expansion of 2 spots on the practice squad those 2 are allowed to be over the 3 year limit. There are new rules this year and you may want to read about it.

http://espn.go.com/blog/tennessee-ti...ad-eligibility

[Patler]

Tolzien had been in Green Bay 10 weeks before he played last year. He had little prep time with the starters, but he had two and a half months to study the playbook and familiarize himself with the Packer system. His overall lack of playing experience was probably more of an issue than his time in GB.

Either one could be kept as Rodger's backup until they find Rodgers' successor. At this point, I am more comfortable with Flynn as that guy than I am with Tolzien because he has done well at it in the past, and his opportunities to be a starter are likely done. Tolzien will probably still look for a chance to compete to be a starter.

[Joemailman]

The question in my opinion is whether Tolzien has improved enough to be effective in the red zone. He was able to move the team downfield at times last year, but couldn't get them in the end zone from the red zone. He was 5-13 for 25 yards with 1 INT for a passer rating of 14.58.

[Bretsky]

Still torn on this; I bleed Badger Red but I've never been that impressed with Tolzien or enamored with his talent. He was an ok college QB who was brilliantly smart with a fanatical work ethic. I don't buy he's ever a long plan starter for a team. His arm is stronger than Flynn's. The staff likes him because he has some talent but is a work a holic so the attitude is there. I'm fine either way.

I'd be surprised if GB keeps 3 QB's. Both backups are ok but neither is that good. It's not like we're NE who are carrying 3 guys who can probably start some day. Neither of these backups are starters IMO

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tolzien is practice squad eligible.

The Packer's practice squad is the Vikings & Bears & San Fran's practice squad too, in that any team can sign players off of other teams' practice squads. San Fran would instantly sign Tolzien.

[Bretsky]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/12288/packers-should-keep-both-flynn-and-tolzien

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Coach Mike McCarthy should just go ahead and call off the competition for the Green Bay Packers' backup quarterback job and demand that general manager Ted Thompson keep both Matt Flynn and Scott Tolzien on the roster.





Tolzien


Flynn

Flynn
Maybe Thompson will feel as though he cannot afford to use three roster spots on quarterbacks. After all, he hasn't done so since 2008, and even then it was only because he wasn't ready to give up on second-round pick Brian Brohm.

But he also hasn’t had three worth keeping like he does now.

Given how close the competition is behind Aaron Rodgers, the safe thing to do would be to find a place for Flynn and Tolzien, especially after what the Packers went through last season when Rodgers broke his collarbone and missed seven starts.

The Packers need three quarterbacks to practice anyway, and since Tolzien has run out of practice squad eligibility, it’s the roster or bust for both backups.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tolzien may have better measureables and probably has a slightly higher ceiling than Flynn along with being younger, but he's never going to be the starter in GB because Rodgers has another 6-8 years anyway. Keeping a backup who is HUNGRY to get his chance at being a starter someday is foolish IMO for the Packers. It just means you need to find and train a new backup 2 years down the road.

Tolzien won the Johnny Unitas Award in college, but he is not the second coming of Johnny Unitas. I think the Packers can find a way to keep his awesomeness in GB for two years as a backup, and that's plenty. Forget ceiling, Tolzien is better than Flynn now.

I agree it would be comforting to have Flynn as a backup for four years. I'd be OK with that. But probably TT will want to replace him with a younger guy before then anyway.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The Packers need three quarterbacks to practice anyway, and since Tolzien has run out of practice squad eligibility, it’s the roster or bust for both backups.

That writer could be wrong, since they just changed the rules to add two vet players to practice squad.

But doesn't matter, Tolzien gets picked-up off waivers if he is cut.

[run pMc]

That writer could be wrong, since they just changed the rules to add two vet players to practice squad.

But doesn't matter, Tolzien gets picked-up off waivers if he is cut.

Yep.

[Rutnstrut]

Flynn has proven himself in pressure situations and actually seems to play better under pressure. Tolzien will crumble under pressure.