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  • #76
    Originally posted by Badgerinmaine View Post
    Unless someone gets hurt, it's hard to picture even a healthy Abbrederis making this team after this pick.
    Not sure I agree

    Cobb, Nelson, Adams, Abbrederis, Montgomery, Janis.........assuming knee recovers
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
      Wonder what this pick means for Abby and Janis? We are loaded at the WR position now but I think this pick was more for a return man. Don't think they want Cobb and Hyde returning next season with both being so important to the team.
      Good point. Forgot that Hyde is nickel an basically a starter at this point.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #78
        There's your next returner. If he turns out to be a difference maker there, he's well worth the pick.

        On offense I think he'll be in the slot and/or backfield more than outside. He needs space to be good and he's not great at creating it on his own.

        I also think there's a good chance he and Abby are competing for a spot. Abby will need to show up big this camp.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by vince View Post
          There's your next returner. If he turns out to be a difference maker there, he's well worth the pick.

          On offense I think he'll be in the slot and/or backfield more than outside. He needs space to be good and he's not great at creating it on his own.

          I also think there's a good chance he and Abby are competing for a spot. Abby will need to show up big this camp.
          Ty is a lock to make the roster. Janis and Abby will be competing for a spot and I'm hoping they keep Janis.

          Nelson
          Cobb
          Adams
          Montgomery
          Janis

          Thats one hell of an athletic group of WRs.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
            Ty is a lock to make the roster. Janis and Abby will be competing for a spot and I'm hoping they keep Janis.

            Nelson
            Cobb
            Adams
            Montgomery
            Janis

            Thats one hell of an athletic group of WRs.
            Ya, unless he blows up in training camp, you have to think Montgomery is quite certain to make the team as the primary kick returner, even if he is not yet ready to give much as a receiver.

            Abbrederis is at such a disadvantage physically that I have always seen him as a long shot for any kind of a career. My suspicion has been that he was drafted where he was mostly for his potential as a return man, one who could fill in a few snaps at WR if needed. Montgomery can certainly fill the return role; and from what he showed last year, it looks like Janis can, too. Abbrederis' one advantage over both Janis and Montgomery is probably in route running, but if they become at least competent route runners, I don't see what Abbrederis will offer.

            No matter who they keep, they certainly will have a group of interesting WRs, with size, speed and quickness in various combinations.
            Last edited by Patler; 05-03-2015, 10:40 AM.

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            • #81
              I think Montgomery is displacing the RB Harris, not Abby. He'll replace Harris as a kick returner but probably also probably eat his few snaps as a running back since he'll already by active. Between Lacy, Starks, Kuhn/the polack, Cobb, and Montgomery I think you've got all the rushers you could possibly need to get yourself out of a game in a pinch. No need to carry a backup backup RB.
              70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                I think Montgomery is displacing the RB Harris, not Abby. He'll replace Harris as a kick returner but probably also probably eat his few snaps as a running back since he'll already by active. Between Lacy, Starks, Kuhn/the polack, Cobb, and Montgomery I think you've got all the rushers you could possibly need to get yourself out of a game in a pinch. No need to carry a backup backup RB.
                Interesting thought, and I agree Montgomery very well might get some snaps out of the backfield. However, with Lacy's running style and Starks injury history, I will be real surprised if they keep just two RBs.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Interesting thought, and I agree Montgomery very well might get some snaps out of the backfield. However, with Lacy's running style and Starks injury history, I will be real surprised if they keep just two RBs.
                  Kuhn and Kowski fight it out for that FB spot. If Kowski wins, then in a pinch, he is their RB, a la Alstott. Week later, they activate the guy they have stashed on the PS, if necessary.

                  As much as I like Kuhn, I hope he gets usurped by Kowski
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                    /the polack, ....
                    microaggression!
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      Interesting thought, and I agree Montgomery very well might get some snaps out of the backfield. However, with Lacy's running style and Starks injury history, I will be real surprised if they keep just two RBs.
                      Montgomery isn't replacing Harris, one of the RB from the PS will do that. Abby best chance at making the team was as a return man and with Montgomery most likely taking that spot and Janis being the better all around special teams player I believe Abby's chances of making the roster are slim to none. Maybe if we keep 6 WRs but don't see us doing that.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        Kuhn and Kowski fight it out for that FB spot. If Kowski wins, then in a pinch, he is their RB, a la Alstott. Week later, they activate the guy they have stashed on the PS, if necessary.

                        As much as I like Kuhn, I hope he gets usurped by Kowski
                        We carry two FBs this year or Kowski will be signed to PS. Kuhn is a lock to make the roster and Kowski imo is he replacement for next year. Watching highlights Kowski does have experience blocking from the TE position so imo he''ll be fighting rookie TE Backman for a roster spot. Meaning we are either going to carry 4 TEs and 1 FB or 3 TEs and 2 FBs... I'm in favor of keeping 2 FBs.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                          We carry two FBs this year or Kowski will be signed to PS. Kuhn is a lock to make the roster and Kowski imo is he replacement for next year. Watching highlights Kowski does have experience blocking from the TE position so imo he''ll be fighting rookie TE Backman for a roster spot. Meaning we are either going to carry 4 TEs and 1 FB or 3 TEs and 2 FBs... I'm in favor of keeping 2 FBs.
                          This seems most likely (PS over keeping two FBs). Kuhn is like Stubby's security blanket, it will take some time before Lacy..err. Lucy.. will steal it away from him.
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #88
                            I don't think he has enough shake or power to play running back with any regularity. He could come out of the backfield in the passing game and be effective though, or motion into that set and create match-up problems. Neal or one of the UDFA RB's will be needed. Maybe the UDFA from Louisiana-Lafayette or one of the other guys could be stashed on the PS...

                            Yeah Montgomery's a lock. I was trying to nicely say that I'm not sure Abby is. I may be premature but I think Janis is a lock too. 3 QB's (and maybe 2 FB's) will shorten up a roster spot from somewhere on O.

                            Though he did have 5 TD's in the first half against Cal... Rodgers ain't gonna like that, especially from a guy who did it in cardinal red. So he's gonna have to figure out how to overcome that.

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                            • #89
                              Was Rajion Neal a PS guy all year?
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Was Rajion Neal a PS guy all year?
                                Yeah I believe so. I wasn't overly impressed last year but he has a full year of development over the other guys so the 3rd rb spot is his to lose at this point.

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