RapSheet says Nelson Diagnosis is torn ACL

[bobblehead]

Sorry the truth hurts. We needed depth and versatility at wr. Now we have a bunch of question marks and unprovens.

So your argument is that TT did a bad job with the WR group? Like having the deepest WR in the entire NFL was a fuckup?

Seriously, I know Mad was upset once when I suggested certain people should refrain from posting because they are stupid but.....

[pittstang5]

I hope NONE of our starters see the field again until Chicago.

I usually enjoy preseason. I love watching the younger guys and seeing who will be this years Sam Shields, TWill, D'Soto, Elliot..etc, etc. But I want this preseason over. Losing Jordy really hurts.

[bobblehead]

Nelson getting hurt for the season is an extreme scenario. But it illustrates what, in my opinion, was a liability going into the offseason.....Depth and versatility. There is no joy in this scenario. I think this essentially kills the season. I would love to be wrong. I just think a solid vet receiver would have been a smart move to soften some of the growing pains of these young guys. I would love to be wrong.

Ok, here is my prediction. After the season you will realize that having an aging player who is on the downside would NOT have been better than having up and comers who have a couple camps in the system. So, you will feel love.

[bobblehead]

I think I will wait for Adams, Montgomery, Janis, White and Abredarris to fail before I throw in the towel for the season.

I will wait for Abredarris to come out of the dark room and wipe the drool away before I count on him for anything other than a future front office job.

[denverYooper]

I understand the positive thinking with those that say the team can overcome this. But if they lose Jordy for the season, it will be a very significant blow. Rodgers will have a bad season without Jordy.

all you goobers that didn't want to bring in a vet like andre johnson,james jones, jennings etc as to avoid stunting the development of guys like adams and janis.....well you got your wish. They have free reign to develop and show their skills.

[hoosier]

This is a tough blow for sure. It would be a disaster if Rodgers were merely good. But he's great. Great QB's elevate their teammates. I think this sets Adams up for a 1000 yard season. (Unsolicited fantasy tip). And Montgomery is looking like their best rookie WR since Greg Jennings. They'll still be one of the top passing teams in the NFL. Losing Lacy would have been much worse than this.

Agree that losing Lacy would have been worse because of depth at WR. Also, if they had to lose Nelson, better that it happen in preseason than in the middle of the season. Losing a star in the preseason tends to open up spaces for younger guys to step up, and whoever steps up (Adams, Montgomery) will have a few weeks to work with Rodgers, much like Bakhtiari with the rest of the OL when Bulaga went down in the preseason two years ago. This is a terrible loss, make no mistake, but given the timing the team still has a chance to recover. If it happened in December then I'm not so sure.

[Joemailman]

Adams will be in the spotlight now. Some guys just need a chance to start.

In 1995 Robert Brooks went from 648 yards in 1994 to 1497 following the retirement of Sterling Sharpe.
In 1996 Antonio Freeman went from 106 yards in 1995 to 933 yards (in 12 games) following an injury to Robert Brooks.
In 1999 Bill Schroeder went from 452 yards in 1998 to 1051 yards after replacing Robert Brooks.
In 2002 Donald Driver went from 167 yards in 2001 to 1064 yards after the departure of Freeman and Schroeder.
In 2011 Jordy Nelson went from 582 yards in 2010 to 1263 yards as he replaced Donald Driver as a starter.
In 2012 Randall Cobb went from 375 yards in 2011 to 954 yards as Greg Jennings was injured.
In 2013 Jarrett Boykin went from 27 yards in 2012 to 681 yards as Randall Cobb was injured.

[George Cumby]

I'm with Patler. Let's see what happens before we quit on the team and the season. Remember the most recent Super Bowl run?

[Packgator]

The "other" WR's can replace some (perhaps all) of the catches, yards, and TD's that Jordy would have caught this year. We won't see much of a drop off in overall offensive stats. What can't be replaced is the chemistry that Rodgers has with Nelson. That chemistry is so important in the type of fast offense the Packers run. Where we'll notice a drop off is the success rate of the crucial, must have type plays (3rd down conversions, etc.) that Rodgers would go to Nelson with. Over the course of a season these plays add up and are the difference in 3 or 4 wins (or losses). That could take an 11 win team down to 8 wins.

As much as I like Lacy, and as good as I think he is, losing him would be less damaging than losing Nelson. I'm sure Rodgers feels the same way. I sure hope I'm wrong about this, but that's how I see things right now.

[pbmax]

The beauty of the Andre Johnson trolling is magnificent.

1. No one knows or cares if he would sign given offer.

2. Number of posters who opposed his signing might approach 3.

3. Options other than Johnson (see #1) need not be noted, because everyone is first checking if they count in #2.

4. If Johnson falls down a well in Week 2, the point can still stand. See #3.

5. No one knows about Adams, Janis or Montgomery. Everyone knows about Andre Johnson. No one will comment on the actual status of the 2015 version of Andre Johnson: crumbling, dessicated husk.

6. GM of Colts, who also traded for Trent Richardson = Genius with 1 playoff win. Thompson, with 1 Super Bowl win = Dullard.

[red]

i think the question should be asked if he was brought back too soon?

having had the hip surgery, he missed the offseason, and a good part of training camp i believe.

part of me thinks the injury could have been caused by him not being 100% in playing shape yet

jordy is a good player, but i think its more of a case of a-rod making the wr's better rather the wr's making a-rod better. just look at the list of guys he's played with. sorry but TT isn't that good, he hasn't magically ht on every receiver he's drafted

the biggest loss will be the rapport between jordy and a-rod that the young guys don't have yet. he rodgers can build that comfort level with the young guys then we may not lose much of a step

but if he can't


we're fucked

[red]

remember back when favre lost sterling sharpe?

favre said it was the best thing to happen to him because he was forced to look for everyone else

[King Friday]

The last time I checked, Tom Brady is wearing a HUGE FUCKING RING that he earned last year with a puny shrimp like Edelman and Brandon LaFell (who???) as the top 2 WRs. Yeah, he's got Gronk too...but even without Nelson, our receiving corp is as good as what the Pats had last year. So tell me again...how does this mean the end for us when Rodgers is our QB?

Everyone thought the damn season was done in 1996 too. Everyone was laughing their fucking asses off when Andre Rison came to town. What could the Packers do without Brooks and Freeman? They were DOOOOOOOOMED! When your QB is MVP caliber, any receiver who has the talent to be in the NFL is going to be able to make plays. Adams is ready to take the next step...some of the young guys now get a chance to step up. Nelson now can be another receiver coach on the team...helping the kids get up to speed as quickly as possible.

This is hardly the end of road. It is better it happened before the year than in week 10 or something. Cobb is plenty capable of catching 120 balls. Adams is plenty capable of catching 70. Last time I checked, that's pretty close to what Jordy and Cobb grabbed last year. And you whiners are all pitching a boo-hoo fit?

Nelson is a very good player...but he's not an elite WR. He benefits A LOT from Rodgers. Nelson still disappears at times. His playoff YPC is almost 3 yards shorter than his regular season average, and he hasn't totaled 100 yards receiving in the postseason in any of the last 4 trips to the playoffs, even those where we played TWO games. He normally has monster games against piss poor defenses. Last year, it was Chicago and Atlanta...24 catches, over 400 yds, 6 TDs in just 3 games. In SEVEN games last year, Jordy had 5 or fewer catches. Yes, he's very dependable in big moments...and that will become a potential issue. However, Cobb has also shown that penchant...and Adams too at points late last year. I'm not sure Nelson's loss is such a tremendous hole that can't be filled by other guys who now have more of a chance to see the field and gain experience that was hard to come by while Nelson and Cobb were always on the field.

I'm sorry, this is unfortunate but it hardly is something that is going to hinder this team from reaching their goals. WR was one of our deepest areas on the team. The true keys to our success are keeping Rodgers healthy and having a defense that can stop someone more often than not. Rodgers can easily lead a more than capable offense led by Cobb, along with Adams, Montgomery and whoever else earns a spot on the squad.

[red]

well, i'm not saying its a good idea, but this is something you might hear being mentioned in the near future

randy moss wants to play again

[Patler]

I will wait for Abredarris to come out of the dark room and wipe the drool away before I count on him for anything other than a future front office job.

I'm not counting on him either, but it isn't over until it is over. For Abredarris, I suspect that will be soon; but he has talent and is on the roster, so I included him.