RapSheet says Nelson Diagnosis is torn ACL

[sharpe1027]

I'm stupid you are cool. having depth and having a good starting lineup are 2 different things. Since Driver,Jennings,jones, all moved on WR depth has been an issue. You may have noticed Ted has drafted 4 in the last 2 drafts. I didn't say TT had done a bad job with the Wrs just that he made a mistake not bringing Jones back or adding another vet via free agency the last 2 years. We could have integrated more 4 wide sets, had a solid backup to our 3rd wr and (cough cough) had some flexibilty if a player missed some time with an injury. I said this summer and last summer. But twist my words and call me stupid. I am stupid but at least i know what depth means.

To be fair, they did re-sign Jones after his rookie year. That gave themselves three extra years. They were not willing to bust the bank on him.

Reports suggested that they offered Jennings quite a bit to stay, but were again unwilling to bust the bank. He was just going to go to the highest bidder, and the Packers didn't rate him that high.

Hard to argue with either decision looking at their stellar (cough, cough) productions since leaving.

[Fritz]

Bringing Jones back would have been expensive and might have prevented Adams from getting the necessary time last year so that he could be poised for a breakout season this year. It doesn't make sense to sign vets who can play (Jones) but who you hope not to play (because you want to develop Adams) based on the possibility that someone might get hurt. Those signings count against the cap, and when guys who can play are forced to sit they become malcontents. Right now it might make more sense for TT to go out and sign a veteran, assuming there is one out there whose treads aren't worn completely smooth.

Another issue in bringing a vet to GB, like Reggie Wayne or Randy Moss, is that of ST. Does anyone think either of them will play ST?

[Packgator]

Last 4 postseasons (6 games total)...highest yardage total in a game is 71 yards, and only 1 TD in 6 games.

Please explain to me how this kind of "go-to" factor will be sorely missed. Nelson's best moments often come against poor defenses. He's a very good WR...but he's hardly irreplaceable when your QB is Aaron Rodgers.

To appreciate how good Jordy is, you can't just look at his final stats for a season (or even a game). It's easy to look at a box score after a game when he has 8 catches, 130 yards, 2 TD's, and say he had a good game. But even the games (such as the ones you mentioned) when his stats are oridinary he is still very important to have on the field. Jordy is a rare "elete" WR who is a football player first and a WR second, and he does so many things that help the TEAM win.

I won't even try to list all of the things Jordy does that don't show in a box score. I don't even know what many of them are. But there are some that I do see every game. His "field awareness", such as the things he does around the first down marker and the pylon . He's very good (perhaps best in the league) at getting the ball on the pylon or just across the first down line. His quick first move up the field after a catch with his back to the defense (like the play he got hurt on yesterday). That quick up field move takes a one yard pass and ends up getting the 3 yards needed for a first down. He knows that play is called just to get a first down. His situational football knowledge (this ties in with the above examples) is superior. He is like having a second QB on the field. Rodgers is the smartest QB in the league and Nelson is the smartest WR. I've already mentioned the chemistry with Rodgers factor.

Most of Nelson's catches, yards, and TD's can be replaced. It's the other things that I'm concerned about. The big question now is how many wins is Jordy worth to the Packers over the course of a season when he plays vs when he doesn't play? If the answer is zero, then nothing has changed. If the answer is 1 or 2, the Packers can still make the playoffs and make a Super Bowl run. If the answer is 3 or more, things get tough and even the playoffs come into doubt.

One final thing. I'm certain the short list I provided above becomes much longer if we were able to talk with Rodgers on this subject.

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the biggest thing was that jordy could command a double team, opening up the rest of the field for the other guys

i don't think cobb or any of the others can command a double team

[call_me_ishmael]

Hey... uh... Randy... uh... It's coach Mac!

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[sharpe1027]

the biggest thing was that jordy could command a double team, opening up the rest of the field for the other guys

i don't think cobb or any of the others can command a double team

Yeah, the threat of the big play is often as important as the big play itself.

[pbmax]

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[Joemailman]

the biggest thing was that jordy could command a double team, opening up the rest of the field for the other guys

i don't think cobb or any of the others can command a double team

Teams will probably double-team Cobb more now. It will be up to the other receivers to make plays against single coverage. Adams and R.Rodgers need to step up. The Packers draft-and-develop strategy is in part to deal with situations like this. It will get a good test.

[Bossman641]

Hey... uh... Randy... uh... It's coach Mac!
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No thanks.

[call_me_ishmael]

No thanks.

I have no doubt he still requires a double team on a deep route. Send him deep play after play - just save those legs for December.

He may not run a 4.2 anymore, but I bet he can still our best deep threat.

[Carolina_Packer]

Another issue in bringing a vet to GB, like Reggie Wayne or Randy Moss, is that of ST. Does anyone think either of them will play ST?

This is a very good point. If an older vet is brought in, likely they wouldn't play ST, which means you have a reserve WR who is active on game day, but not going to play a ST role, which most reserve wide-outs do. Of course if someone like Moss can come in and be any kind of a threat, it might be worth it, but it's risky from a game day actives standpoint.

[Carolina_Packer]

So, they missed on Reggie Wayne and Randy Moss may not be able to roll off the couch after 2 years away. If they wanted to fill this spot by free agency, who is out there that you'd want?

Not sure what happened to Mike Williams after he signed a good sized deal with Tampa Bay and then got traded to Buffalo, got hurt and then got released after he got healthy enough. He's at least got experience and is only 28. 6-1, 212 so he has good-size. Of course, any team could have signed him once Buffalo waived him last season, so there must be a story.

Wes Welker's name might come up. Is he healthy enough to dial-up one more year? He's going to run good routes. Might even play special teams, who knows!? He's 34, but I'm sure if he's waiting for that call that he's kept himself in shape.

Anyone else of interest?

[pittstang5]

Anyone else of interest?

Read an article about possibly James Jones, but he's with the Giants. They'd have to release him. I guess it's a possibility if the Giants go younger.

Article:

http://nflspinzone.com/2015/08/24/gr...h-james-jones/

[sharpe1027]

Stick with the current guys in camp, but be sure to always wear headphones to drown on the whine that is sure to come from certain fans.

[3irty1]

There are no couch free agents I'd rather on the roster than Myles White.