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  • #61
    Originally posted by Packgator View Post
    The "other" WR's can replace some (perhaps all) of the catches, yards, and TD's that Jordy would have caught this year. We won't see much of a drop off in overall offensive stats. What can't be replaced is the chemistry that Rodgers has with Nelson. That chemistry is so important in the type of fast offense the Packers run. Where we'll notice a drop off is the success rate of the crucial, must have type plays (3rd down conversions, etc.) that Rodgers would go to Nelson with. Over the course of a season these plays add up and are the difference in 3 or 4 wins (or losses). That could take an 11 win team down to 8 wins.
    It might not be as bad as you think, because:
    - several commented that a Rodgers/Adams connection seemed to be developing quicker than expected;
    - those 3rd down connections that won't be there initially without Nelson, will be broken plays as Rodgers scrambles, and Cobb is majical on those.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      those 3rd down connections that won't be there initially without Nelson, will be broken plays as Rodgers scrambles, and Cobb is majical on those.
      And just a guess...but I'm guessing Montgomery will excel there as well.
      It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by King Friday View Post
        So tell me again...how does this mean the end for us when Rodgers is our QB?

        Nelson is a very good player...but he's not an elite WR.

        I'm sorry, this is unfortunate but it hardly is something that is going to hinder this team from reaching their goals. Rodgers can easily lead a more than capable offense led by Cobb, along with Adams, Montgomery and whoever else earns a spot on the squad.
        I think Nelson is an elite WR. His stats can be replaced, but his go-to factor will be sorely missed. I don't feel all is lost. The Packers can still be one of the better teams. But I was thinking Super Bowl and right now I believe those Super Bowl chances were reduced. I think Nelson's talent is worth (to this team) 2 or 3 more wins for the season if he is playing. I can't say anything close to that about the other WR's. Those 2 or 3 wins could be the difference between a good season and a great season. Again, I hope I'm completely wrong about Jordy's value to this team.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          It might not be as bad as you think, because:
          - several commented that a Rodgers/Adams connection seemed to be developing quicker than expected;
          - those 3rd down connections that won't be there initially without Nelson, will be broken plays as Rodgers scrambles, and Cobb is majical on those.
          Both good points. And very true about Cobb.

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          • #65
            Rob Demovsky ‏@RobDemovsky 2h2 hours ago
            Discovered while calling around to see if #Packers might be reaching out to free-agent WRs: Kevin Dorsey (7th-round pick in '13) has retired
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by red View Post
              i think the question should be asked if he was brought back too soon?

              having had the hip surgery, he missed the offseason, and a good part of training camp i believe.

              part of me thinks the injury could have been caused by him not being 100% in playing shape yet
              The Packers are usually careful about not bringing guys back to soon. But in this case I think it's possible.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                I understand the positive thinking with those that say the team can overcome this. But if they lose Jordy for the season, it will be a very significant blow. Rodgers will have a bad season without Jordy.
                This has to be the dumbest take on this I've seen yet... Jordy Nelson is outstanding but make no mistake: It's the presence of Aaron Rodgers that makes him outstanding. It's going to business as usual in Green Bay just like it was in 2010 when we lost Finley for the year. Opportunity opens things up for auxiliary players now.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Packgator View Post
                  I think Nelson is an elite WR. His stats can be replaced, but his go-to factor will be sorely missed.
                  Last 4 postseasons (6 games total)...highest yardage total in a game is 71 yards, and only 1 TD in 6 games.

                  Please explain to me how this kind of "go-to" factor will be sorely missed. Nelson's best moments often come against poor defenses. He's a very good WR...but he's hardly irreplaceable when your QB is Aaron Rodgers.
                  It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Packgator View Post
                    Other than Rodgers, Jordy was the one (offensive) guy the Packers couldn't afford to lose. Cobb and Adams will have things a lot tougher with Jordy not on field. I believe the Packers now only have 2 WR's on the roster with more than 10 career catches. The Nelson injury has me feeling sick.
                    Wrong, more than one injury on the OLINE is what the Packers offense can't afford to lose. Devante Adams is a stud and may be better than Nelson by the end of the season. Montgomery and Janis are two talented young guns who will vie for number three...

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                      Last 4 postseasons (6 games total)...highest yardage total in a game is 71 yards, and only 1 TD in 6 games.

                      Please explain to me how this kind of "go-to" factor will be sorely missed. Nelson's best moments often come against poor defenses. He's a very good WR...but he's hardly irreplaceable when your QB is Aaron Rodgers.
                      Exactly, this isn't Dez Bryant going down....

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                        Last 4 postseasons (6 games total)...highest yardage total in a game is 71 yards, and only 1 TD in 6 games.

                        Please explain to me how this kind of "go-to" factor will be sorely missed. Nelson's best moments often come against poor defenses. He's a very good WR...but he's hardly irreplaceable when your QB is Aaron Rodgers.
                        The chemistry between Rodgers and Nelson is something that's been developed over the years. And it's a thing of beauty. You don't replace that in a month or even a season. In the Packers offense, with no huddles, Rodgers just has to look at Jordy a certain way and Jordy knows just what Rodgers wants him to do. We see this many times each game. Over the course of a season (I believe) these seemingly insignificant plays add up to 2 or 3 extra wins. The thing to watch moving forward without Jordy will be to see if any of the young WR's can develop "some" of this same chemistry with Rodgers. Either way, the Packers are a better team with Nelson than without him. How many games (wins) better is the big question.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by VegasPackFan View Post
                          This is BIG blow to our offense. Have to wonder now who steps up? I would expect Adams but Janis is more of a Jordy type receiver.
                          Janis route running sucks; I don't see a comparison yet

                          Janis = Bill Schroeder and has a lot to learn to get any better
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Jermichael FinleyVerified account
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                            With Nelson out. Let's see how good @AaronRodgers12 really is. #Packers

                            What a puke
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                              What a puke
                              He claims he was misinterpreted, it was not meant sarcastically. Give him the benefit of the doubt.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                                Janis = Bill Schroeder and has a lot to learn to get any better
                                Pretty good comparison.

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