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  • #31
    Why is everyone so down on Janis? Many receivers from big school programs take most of a year before they start contributing significantly. Janis is 6 games into his second year, and he was coming from much farther back. Donald Driver did little of nothing his first three years (3, 21 &13 receptions) and he was trying to beat out the infamous Bill Schroeder. The knock on Driver was that all he could do was run fast and jump high (sound familiar?)

    I have no idea if Janis will pan out or not as a receiver, but I am certainly willing to give him more time to develop. I'll say this for him, he seems intense and willing to do what is asked. He has already come close on a couple blocked punts, and his work as a gunner has been very good even with the botched effort inside the 5 yard line. He has been a solid tackler, and apparently has been beating blockers to be in the returners face when the ball gets there.

    As a receiver, Janis is a work in progress, for sure. But I think the important part is "in progress".

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    • #32
      I think it is reasonable to be think Janis is a long shot to be a starter or more. Nobody says they know for sure, but there are plenty of potential project guys that never get there. Nobody knows, but we're free to guess.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by smuggler View Post
        It would swell up and stiffen...
        Is priapism the medical term if the swelling and stiffness is just in the knee? He should see a doctor. Preferably a really pretty doctor. Unless it's just the knee. Then he should probably see an orthopedic doctor. Unless there happens to be a really pretty orthopedic doctor handy.

        Schroeder will always be legendary for how much he played versus how pissed off he made both Holmgren and Favre.

        Janis will be godlike. I reserve the right to say which god until later. Maybe Priapus.
        [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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        • #34
          Plenty of top prospects don't make it too.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by swede View Post

            Schroeder will always be legendary for how much he played versus how pissed off he made both Holmgren and Favre.
            Perhaps an indication of what a bad job Wolf did at times finding wide receivers.

            It was sort of entertaining, waiting to see which one would blow up at Schroeder. Favre waiving frantically and screaming at him as he came back to the huddle or left the field. Holmgren grabbing his facemask and yelling in his face.

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            • #36
              Janis gives mediocre a bad name. he is a bottom feeder. He might cling to the very bottom of a roster for as many as eight years, but his ceiling is about 40 catches for 600 yards. He is a stop gap until someone without an ankle, shoulder or ACL injury comes along.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #37
                Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                Janis gives mediocre a bad name. he is a bottom feeder. He might cling to the very bottom of a roster for as many as eight years, but his ceiling is about 40 catches for 600 yards. He is a stop gap until someone without an ankle, shoulder or ACL injury comes along.
                Janis has his avid supporters but IMO your assessment of him just as extreme. I'd wager Janis is somewhere in between = a #4/5 WR and effective ST player. His size and speed make him a nice gunner. Every team needs players like him.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Why is everyone so down on Janis? Many receivers from big school programs take most of a year before they start contributing significantly. Janis is 6 games into his second year, and he was coming from much farther back. Donald Driver did little of nothing his first three years (3, 21 &13 receptions) and he was trying to beat out the infamous Bill Schroeder. The knock on Driver was that all he could do was run fast and jump high (sound familiar?)
                  Even Jordy didn't blossom until his 4th year.
                  One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                  John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                    Janis has his avid supporters but IMO your assessment of him just as extreme. I'd wager Janis is somewhere in between = a #4/5 WR and effective ST player. His size and speed make him a nice gunner. Every team needs players like him.
                    I agree. And a #4/5 guy is gonna top out at 40/600. The only reason Janis is on the field is because Adams and Nelson are out and Cobb is somewhat limited.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                      Even Jordy didn't blossom until his 4th year.
                      yes, but he's a rose and Janis is a turnip.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        yes, but he's a rose and Janis is a turnip.
                        Nelson:






                        Janis:

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                        • #42
                          I'm thinking this thread needs a Star Chamber-like process to weed out doubting Thomas's and anti-sniffers (I'm looking straight at you, Rand.) I'd appoint Harlan but he's notoriously unfair and biased...On second thought he'd be perfect.
                          One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                          John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                          • #43
                            If the guy is the offense's version of Jarret Bush, then he is welcome on the roster and can enjoy the disdain of all of us posers and losers who couldn't make it to Saginaw Valley State or wherever he went to school.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                              If the guy is the offense's version of Jarret Bush, then he is welcome on the roster and can enjoy the disdain of all of us posers and losers who couldn't make it to Saginaw Valley State or wherever he went to school.
                              I have no distain at all for the guy. Just being realistic about his abilities. Who knows? There's a 1-2% chance he could go Donald Driver.
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #45
                                I'm not sniffing and I'm not knocking him. I just have no idea where he lands on the continuum.

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