Now we get to see if MM's is right.

[Patler]

MM has repeatedly said he feels he has the best coaching staff in the league.
He has said he doesn't question or worry about the team leadership.
Well, its time to prove he is right.

There have been many examples of highly regarded sports teams heading off the tracks during the course of a season. It is up to the coaches and team leaders to see that the season isn't completely derailed. This is beyond waiting for them to come out of a funk. It is beyond minor tweaking for corrections.

Give up what you thought you wanted your offense to be, and focus on the parts you thought would b secondary, because your initial vision was flawed.

So far, the cumulative performance has been less than the sum of the parts.

[red]

some people saw something wasn't quite right going into the bye week and hoped the team would fix some things then

after the bye week we saw the team doing the same damn things, nothing changed or got fixed

i'm not gonna hold by breath waiting for change from this staff

[denverYooper]

They look lost.

The startling thing to me is how bad they seem to be at dealing with pressure, since their protection unit has been together for most of the last two years. Even the interior seems to just cave on a regular basis.

[mraynrand]

This team is going 6 weeks without a win.

They will lose badly next week at Minnesota. I predict MN 31, Pack 6.

[Freak Out]

This team is going 6 weeks without a win.

They will lose badly next week at Minnesota. I predict MN 31, Pack 6.

If Monty and Lacy are back it won't be that bad. More like Dikes 27 - Pack 17.

[esoxx]

Stubby

[King Friday]

McCarthy's stubborn loyalty to his system and his way is what is destroying this team. He believes he can do the same thing game in and game out and win...because he's been blessed to have Favre and Rodgers under center for him.

Give McCarthy an average QB, and his team would never win more than 6 games in this league.

[red]

McCarthy's stubborn loyalty to his system and his way is what is destroying this team. He believes he can do the same thing game in and game out and win...because he's been blessed to have Favre and Rodgers under center for him.

Give McCarthy an average QB, and his team would never win more than 6 games in this league.

thats pretty much the way i see it too

[Rutnstrut]

McCarthy's stubborn loyalty to his system and his way is what is destroying this team. He believes he can do the same thing game in and game out and win...because he's been blessed to have Favre and Rodgers under center for him.

Give McCarthy an average QB, and his team would never win more than 6 games in this league.

Holy shit, I've said the same thing here for the last few years and everyone jumps down my throat. At least there are others starting to see it. I would also add that Rodgers is possibly not as good as we thought. When things pretty much always go right, he does great. But when the going gets tough, he falls apart.

[pbmax]

McCarthy's stubborn loyalty to his system and his way is what is destroying this team. He believes he can do the same thing game in and game out and win...because he's been blessed to have Favre and Rodgers under center for him.

Give McCarthy an average QB, and his team would never win more than 6 games in this league.

See New Orleans, circa 2000. Aaron Brooks.

[pbmax]

This team is going 6 weeks without a win.

They will lose badly next week at Minnesota. I predict MN 31, Pack 6.

Agree that they will be highly leveraged against in the Vikes game. But the turnaround starts versus the Bears the following week.

[Rutnstrut]

Agree that they will be highly leveraged against in the Vikes game. But the turnaround starts versus the Bears the following week.

This week was suppose to be the turnaround...

[Patler]

I would also add that Rodgers is possibly not as good as we thought. When things pretty much always go right, he does great. But when the going gets tough, he falls apart.

No, he does not fall apart. If he fell apart they would not have been within a whisper of tying last week and this week, both being games they had no business being close at the end of the game.

However, when the going gets tough, Rodgers often (too often) fails to deliver the final play needed for victory.

[pittstang5]

They lost to a bad team..AT HOME! Unacceptable!

If today's loss didn't light a fire under everyone's ass - management, coaches, players, etc. Then this team has no hope for the rest of the season. Shit was going south during the San Diego game - the writing was on the wall then and there. They had plenty of time to figure it out.

Rodgers is broken, I don't know what's wrong with him. He's had 3 piss poor games in a row - Unheard of! Today, he was overthrowing, underthrowing - just sucking it up. Even when he was hurt last year, he played better than what I'm seeing. The defense still can't be counted on. well, we can count on them to fold when they are needed. And Special teams....Masthay is unpredictable, and again, coverage units suck when we need them.

MM has kept is "buddies" on the coaching staff. If he's unwilling to let someone go, then count me in as one who wants to see him go.

Losing to the Lions - At home. C'mon man! It just shouldn't have happened.

[red]

See New Orleans, circa 2000. Aaron Brooks.

you mean back when his offenses were very average?

his rankings as offensive coordinator were 10th, 10th, 19th, 11th, 15th, 32nd in overall yards

10th, 13th, 3rd, 14th, 14th, 30th in points scored

rushing 8th, 18th, 17th, 11th, 27th, and 17th

passing 14th, 10th, 16th, 8th, 12th, 32nd

stellar

the guy got his job because of who he knew and his coaching tree, not because of his prior success