Now we get to see if MM's is right.

[Rutnstrut]

Lack of TEs doesn't help currently. But mainly its that the different flavors of Stubby's offense take time to switch out and reload. Its a big strike offense. NE will beat you to death with a jeweler's hammer.

Belichick has developed an offense (after his first two Super Bowl wins Charlie Weiss) that is a chameleon which can feature anyone of 3 different players in the passing game and it can all be short stuff with only Gronk and one WR going long.

M3 is somewhat inhibited by the WCO offense and bigger receivers (and no TE). When Monty comes back, he and Cobb can play games out of the backfield and get mismatches like Edelman and Amendola.

So basically it's the fact that stubby isn't a very good coach? Pretty much any coach can have success with great QB play and some luck as far as injuries go.

[mraynrand]

So basically it's the fact that stubby isn't a very good coach? Pretty much any coach can have success with great QB play and some luck as far as injuries go.

But where does the great QB play come from? It doesn't happen in isolation, just ask Steve Young about the Tampa years. Stubby gets credit for developing the offense and Rodgers and he gets 'credit' (blame) too for being Stubby and not being able to squeeze out wins with enough adjustments when the chips are down.

[pbmax]

? I don't recall. I did predict 9-7 for the season, but I thought it's be the defense collapsing.

Another thread you predicted (fake alarm I thought) a six game slide for the Pack.

Perillo is intriguing. Rodgers likes him for some reason and he throws it to him in the middle of the field. Making him one of two (Cobb) to qualify for that honor. Richard and Q only get partial credit on that.

[mraynrand]

Another thread you predicted (fake alarm I thought) a six game slide for the Pack.

Oh, no. I was saying they wouldn't win for 6 weeks. That's from the San Diego game to the game after the Vikings in two weeks. Calendar time they are gonna go six weeks without a win!!

[denverYooper]

Perillo, Abracadabra and Monty may save the season - if - and it's a big if - the O-line can recover.

That TD to Perillo is exactly why Rodgers needs to "trust" his guys. It was one of the better plays in a game where there were few. He threw it before Perillo got out of his break. If Perillo doesn't run the route to the right spot at the right depth, that ball goes right to the defender.

[pbmax]

That TD to Perillo is exactly why Rodgers needs to "trust" his guys. It was one of the better plays in a game where there were few. He threw it before Perillo got out of his break. If Perillo doesn't run the route to the right spot at the right depth, that ball goes right to the defender.

Perillo was triple covered when he threw it. It was remarkable.

Adams had a deep route where his spacing was bad. He left little space between himself and the sideline and Rodgers throw was then shy of him.

[Patler]

so lets see.......
He finally threw to Abbrederis, and it worked.
He threw to Perilo, and it worked.
Funny how that happens. If you give them a chance, sometimes young guys who make a roster can make a play!

I really think Favre took too many ill-advised risks; but I also believe Rodgers takes too few risks.

[pbmax]

so lets see.......
He finally threw to Abbrederis, and it worked.
He threw to Perilo, and it worked.
Funny how that happens. If you give them a chance, sometimes young guys who make a roster can make a play!

I really think Favre took too many ill-advised risks; but I also believe Rodgers takes too few risks.

And Rodgers liked both as receivers. He is not as impressed by Janis. Too few risks or a decent judge of who can help?

[Patler]

Hell, i doubt he even threw to Abbrederis in camp last year the two days or so that he was there. Rodgers made what, one comment, and the Badger fans wouldn't let us forget it?

It's funny because in the last few articles the coaches almost seem to be making excuses for Rodgers re Janis.

But that never has been my complaint. It wasn't just about Janis. For several days I always mentioned both Abbrederis and Janis, both of whom were being ignored.

If Rodgers loved Abbrederis so much, why hasn't he been invoved sooner?

[pbmax]

If Rodgers loved Abbrederis so much, why hasn't he been invoved sooner?

He liked Perillo but Preillo got cut. Which is it, too much or not enough influence?

[Patler]

He liked Perillo but Preillo got cut. Which is it, too much or not enough influence?

I have no clue, I don't care, and I never have cared. All that I have advocated is that they need to involve more than 3 WRs and 1 TE even if Adams is out, even if Montgomery is out and even when Cobb was limited. Adams being out and Montgomery being out is not a justification.

Today was the first day they have showed signs of breaking out of that. 9 catches for guys who would have been lucky to be targeted two weeks ago.

[call_me_ishmael]

you mean back when his offenses were very average?

his rankings as offensive coordinator were 10th, 10th, 19th, 11th, 15th, 32nd in overall yards

10th, 13th, 3rd, 14th, 14th, 30th in points scored

rushing 8th, 18th, 17th, 11th, 27th, and 17th

passing 14th, 10th, 16th, 8th, 12th, 32nd

stellar

the guy got his job because of who he knew and his coaching tree, not because of his prior success

- Or - because TT hired for aptitude. If you believe what Troy, other announcers, and even connected beat writers say, MM is a premier offensive mind in the league.

[call_me_ishmael]

Lack of TEs doesn't help currently. But mainly its that the different flavors of Stubby's offense take time to switch out and reload. Its a big strike offense. NE will beat you to death with a jeweler's hammer.

Belichick has developed an offense (after his first two Super Bowl wins Charlie Weiss) that is a chameleon which can feature anyone of 3 different players in the passing game and it can all be short stuff with only Gronk and one WR going long.

M3 is somewhat inhibited by the WCO offense and bigger receivers (and no TE). When Monty comes back, he and Cobb can play games out of the backfield and get mismatches like Edelman and Amendola.

I am not so sure BB developed the offense so much as skated to where the puck was going. He uses tons of college spread stuff, picks, etc. I see a pretty similar passing attack from Chipper Kelly and BB (admittedly, I don't watch a ton so I could be off base).

[pbmax]

I am not so sure BB developed the offense so much as skated to where the puck was going. He uses tons of college spread stuff, picks, etc. I see a pretty similar passing attack from Chipper Kelly and BB (admittedly, I don't watch a ton so I could be off base).

Oh, he stole from everyone, including all his college coaching buddies. He runs no read option with Brady, but he does everything else. I did not mean that he invented new plays, but he rebuilt their playbook from the Rod Erhard base it sprung from.

[red]

yup

m3-

“You just have to stay true to your preparation, don’t overreact, and keep things in perspective,” McCarthy said, via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “That’s the reality of how we’re going to approach it.”

McCarthy said he won’t resume calling offensive plays, but opted not to delve into what might be behind the downturn in Rodgers’s play.