Is Aaron Rodgers more of the problem than we might think?

[pbmax]

It must be hard to stay humble when people are slobbering all over you like that.

Who was the designated Favre fan-boy who left the Press Gazette for radio? Chris Havel? That guy was/is good for some hometown cooking.

[RashanGary]

Ah shit, you’re buying into the AR genius thing. Ugh. I guess this is what happens with fame. People can’t help themselves.

[mraynrand]

Ah shit, you’re buying into the AR genius thing. Ugh. I guess this is what happens with fame. People can’t help themselves.

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[Radagast]

The media use Aaron Rodgers to bolster their ratings. Who he dates, where he eats, public events he attends, and even what his last golf score was have as eager an audience as Golf's Tiger Woods. Rodgers, weather he likes the attention or not, uses the national celebrity to be paid to sell insurance and other products in popular commercials. I don't believe that he allows the celebrity spotlight to affect his position with the Packers, but I'm sure that his ever growing bank accounts have him laughing all the way to his stock brokers office.

All too often some sports reporters will use a very small sound bite to construct a story that benefits their careers more than it tells the "whole" truth. That said QB audibles should be one of the topics that HC LaFleur and Rodgers and others should/will discuss. Afterall, a new offensive system will not be a one size fits all system. Adjustments, new ideas, some time tested old ideas, and chance will all come into play as the 2019 season draws near.

[mraynrand]

Rodgers is too smart to use a broker.

[pbmax]

Ah shit, you’re buying into the AR genius thing. Ugh. I guess this is what happens with fame. People can’t help themselves.

Genius? No. I am talking public smarts and results. How to continue to get people to believe in you. Lombardi played along enough and curried favor with enough reporters to basically become immortal. Harlan simply delivered good results for longer than anyone else other than George Halas, so much so that even beat guys understood that it was important he was there or the whole organization might not have turned around. Favre and Rodgers ran circles around coaches and reporters.

Now that I have thought about it, probably have to say Wolf over Holmgren here, because I suspect 50% of Packer fans would replace Gute with Wolf and put their own money up to do it if given the chance. If not for that second to last draft of his, I would say the evidence of his decline was in his drafts, but Bubba Franks, Chad Clifton, Na'il Diggs, KGB and Mark Tauscher were a nice penultimate swan song.

[pbmax]

I would say Rodgers does have a genius (each of these guys do) and its manipulating the pocket to get not just room but time to throw.

Bonus Lombardi story (not my own). Trip to the UK. Walking just in front of a tour group from Germany. Their guide (obviously) spoke both English and German with a group whose English was pretty good. My source spoke a little German and was following their conversation along. Group was sharing which football clubs they follow. One guy was following a small German club who were terrible but he loved anyway. Guide liked an English club. Ask the women sitting next to my source and it was a big English one, ManU or the like.

Ask my source which club they follow and they say "I follow a different kind of football" smiling. Having discovered an American infiltrator via the very midwestern accent, they laugh and say "American Football"! They ask which team or town and she says "Green Bay".

Now keep in mind, up to this point in the trip, telling folks you encounter that you are from Wisconsin does not normally get you much recognition. Probably work better with German tourists than residents of London. Instead say "north of Chicago" and it paints a more immediate picture.

But this group of three people from German and the UK say almost in unison "Oh, Lombardi!" Pause. "That's all we know."

[esoxx]

What I gleaned from the interview is Hollywood Rodgers is not in the best of shape. Is it normal to huff and puff like that simply from walking down the fairway or was he running wind sprints on the side just prior to the interview?

Oh and also giving his family zero credit for where he is today. He was asked this directly and could have thrown them a frickin bone (cue Dr. Evil here). Guy is a certifiable dick. But he's our dick.

[RashanGary]

What I gleaned from the interview is Hollywood Rodgers is not in the best of shape. Is it normal to huff and puff like that simply from walking down the fairway or was he running wind sprints on the side just prior to the interview?

Oh and also giving his family zero credit for where he is today. He was asked this directly and could have thrown them a frickin bone (cue Dr. Evil here). Guy is a certifiable dick. But he's our dick.

I saw that too!

I like Aaron Rodgers too. And Favre. They both were worshipped. I can’t blame either for letting it go to their heads. Shit, I get me ego stroked by some woman for a couple weeks and I’m shooting my ego load all over the place. I get it. We’re all human.

When I see it tho, i can’t help but call it out.

Still, at the end of the day, he’s dedicated to the game and I love team sports, especially football because the physical aspect really brings a survival emotion into it. He helps my favorite team win so I’m always rooting for him. He’s our ass hole!

[RashanGary]

I appreciate he did not adopt the "Aw shucks, I'm just a tractor enthusiast" demeanor. One problem in GB is that three of the QBs have been smarter than everyone except Lombardi, Harlan and maybe Holmgren.

Its not Favre’s demeanor I miss. It’s his willingness to hand the ball off and throw to running backs. That’s what I mean by simplicity based effectiveness.

But i agree, Rodgers does a great job with the media and in the pocket and in a lot of other ways. He’s a HOF QB.

[pbmax]

Its not Favre’s demeanor I miss. It’s his willingness to hand the ball off and throw to running backs. That’s what I mean by simplicity based effectiveness.

But i agree, Rodgers does a great job with the media and in the pocket and in a lot of other ways. He’s a HOF QB.

I loved all those audibles away from the running game with Eddie Lacy as a rookie and 2nd year player. All those carries that Ryan Grant did not get. Rodgers not calling for Aaron Jones to get more playing time.

I loved those audibles away from the run in the second half of the Seahawks playoff game that led directly to the loss.

[RashanGary]

I loved all those audibles away from the running game with Eddie Lacy as a rookie and 2nd year player. All those carries that Ryan Grant did not get. Rodgers not calling for Aaron Jones to get more playing time.

I loved those audibles away from the run in the second half of the Seahawks playoff game that led directly to the loss.

Favre never approached 70% pass plays in a season. There is a time and place.

[pbmax]

Favre never approached 70% pass plays in a season. There is a time and place.

2018 was the time and place. Favre retired after 2010 playing next to Adrian Peterson.

[mraynrand]

Favre retired after 2010 playing next to Adrian Peterson.

Remember how Favre kept handing the ball off to Peterman in the NFCC game against New Orleans and Peterman kept fumbling it? Good times.

[pbmax]

Remember how Favre kept handing the ball off to Peterman in the NFCC game against New Orleans and Peterman kept fumbling it? Good times.

Favre had just 2 interceptions, I believe that is below his career playoff average

Ol' Gunslinger had 46 attempts and 1 rush which I am going to count as a pass attempt unless someone remembers him doing a end around or QB sneak. 47 passes, 35 runs, just 57% pass plays. 5 to 1 turnover rate. Vikes should have won walking away but couldn't get away from turnovers. Hmmm, who do I know that doesn't do that?