Official Vince Biegel 2017 Fourth Round Choice

[pbmax]

Boo. Though he seems to be evaluating him solely at ILB.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2706570-2017-nfl-draft-grades-full-day-3-report-card

No. 108 Green Bay Packers: Vince Biegel, Linebacker, Wisconsin

Strengths: Motor, instincts, experience.

Weaknesses: Foot injuries, power game.

Biegel is your central-casting, old-school Big Ten linebacker. He has the tools to be a run-thumping NFL inside linebacker, but a long history of foot injuries cloud his potential, and he needs to become better at converting his size and his effort into block-shedding and gap-plugging. Also, old-school thumpers just aren't as useful as they used to be. The Packers are really leaning into the defense in this year's draft. Grade: C.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Biegel isn't really old school thumper, is he? Also, didn't he play in a school record 54 games?

[pbmax]

Biegel isn't really old school thumper, is he? Also, didn't he play in a school record 54 games?

Sorta. Be isn't terribly strong but he does fine with contact. He could play inside. Not precisely old school, but the review is trying to forecast him as an ILB.

The foot injury is listed because I believe it came up twice and foot injuries do tend to repeat.

He missed two games his senior year after getting screw inserted into his foot.

[texaspackerbacker]

I really don't he him as an ILB. If he's good, he might make it possible to use Matthews inside more. I'm guardedly optimistic about Biegel based on his junior year. Arguably (as I read somewhere) teams game planned for him, which had something to do with why T.J. Watt looked so good.

[Bretsky]

Dude is a tough nut; he came back from his 4 week injury in two weeks.

I may have preferred the RB but Vince was the next best guy on he board there.

He's a smash mouth football player. Bottom line. And he can rush the passer. He's a guy you try at ILB but he's going to pressure and get to the QB. SOLID PICK TT

Tampa Bay called him at 7:00 AM in the morning and let him know he was theirs if he got to them

[Deputy Nutz]

He is not an inside linebacker at this point. He does one thing really well and that is rushing up the field

[bobblehead]

He is not an inside linebacker at this point. He does one thing really well and that is rushing up the field

If you're only going to do one thing well, nothing beats making a QB a bit nervous.

[Sparkey]

[QUOTE=wist43;927504]I cant post the video of Beigel in the LSU game as I'm on my phone, but go on YouTube and watch the tape... he doesn't make a single play of his own inertia. The couple of plays he does make are b/c he's unblocked.

He gets handled easily by the TE, he can't get off blocks, he lacks chase speed, on and on... watch the tape.[/QUOTE

He did about as much as Watt did in that game. They both played disciplined rushes and forced lsu to throw the ball. Biegel also had one of only two sacks.

I thought he played very well.

And if that is the tape to use to claim Biegel was over drafted, then in that same breath you can also say Watt was a major reach in rmd 1.

[texaspackerbacker]

[QUOTE=Sparkey;927862]

I cant post the video of Beigel in the LSU game as I'm on my phone, but go on YouTube and watch the tape... he doesn't make a single play of his own inertia. The couple of plays he does make are b/c he's unblocked.

He gets handled easily by the TE, he can't get off blocks, he lacks chase speed, on and on... watch the tape.[/QUOTE

He did about as much as Watt did in that game. They both played disciplined rushes and forced lsu to throw the ball. Biegel also had one of only two sacks.

I thought he played very well.

And if that is the tape to use to claim Biegel was over drafted, then in that same breath you can also say Watt was a major reach in rmd 1.

The Badgers won, and did so mainly with defense. Either Biegel and Watt - the two top Badger defenders - were doing something right or else they were so damn good that L.S.U. gameplanned so much against them that the rest of the D came through big.

All of that being said, though, Badger homer that I proudly am, I am just slightly worried that Biegel - being one cog in the machine of a great D - might just turn out to be kinda mediocre with the Packers. I hope I'm wrong, but I guess we'll see.

[gbgary]

had foot surgery.

[Freak Out]

Bretsky is to blame.

[Joemailman]

had foot surgery.

He's Packer People.

[pbmax]

I have been wanting to post this for a week.


FUCK!


579!

[LEWCWA]

I don't know. I knew Rocky Beigel....he is a big name in wisconsin sports around my era

Where you from---I went to school with Rocky and TD.

[bobblehead]

Which play are you talking about?? Where he dove in and got the guy by the ankle?? I remember that one; and, I remember he actually had a sack in that game when he came in unblocked, overran the QB, the QB stepped up in the pocket but didn't get rid of the ball and Beigel was able to get him from behind.

Where on tape are talking about??

Overall, that video is not a pretty sight for Beigel. He simply is not an explosive athlete, not 'sudden, quick twitch... there's nothing about him that says he has a ceiling above anything more than a decent backup and special teams player.

I would be looking to grab those types of guys out of the ranks of undrafted FA's, and focus my draft picks on trying to procure guys that can be starters or have upside to be starters.

so, for posterity sake...who would you have taken with first pick in 4th.