Official 2018 nfl draft thread

[Guiness]

wait, is the draft this thursday?

Don't know that I'd call the circus that goes on Thursday 'the draft'

[Joemailman]

Don't know that I'd call the circus that goes on Thursday 'the draft'

It all begins at 6 PM:

"NFL Draft Red Carpet" - Catch all the player arrivals as the top NFL prospects make their way up the red carpet to the 2018 NFL Draft in Dallas.

[Smidgeon]

Not sure I can remember a draft where this is less consensus about who the 1st pick will be.

Mario Williams vs Reggie Bush? Wait--that had consensus. It was just wrong.

[Smidgeon]

It all begins at 6 PM:

"NFL Draft Red Carpet" - Catch all the player arrivals as the top NFL prospects make their way up the red carpet to the 2018 NFL Draft in Dallas.

I hope that's EST so I can skip the dog and pony show. When do the picks begin?

[Joemailman]

I hope that's EST so I can skip the dog and pony show. When do the picks begin?

I believe that's ET. Believe Cleveland is on the clock at 8 ET.

[Deputy Nutz]

Arden Key, not really any better than Landry. He plays more of a hybrid 3-4 outside linebacker than a defensive end, but really not impressed with him either.


The guy I like and he might be available in the second round for the Packers, is Lorenzo Carter from Georgia. He is more linebacker than defensive lineman. He had really good film against Notre Dame, and then some average film against Kentucky and Alabama. He plays more natural and with more flexibility than Landry or Key.

Sweat is also more of a defensive end than linebacker, but Carter is more fluid and uses better hands.

[pbmax]

Sorry I am not a fan of Landry. He doesn't pop off on film. He is in a 4 point stance 95% of the time and he doesn't use his hands well. He lacks explosion off the ball. To me he looks like the least productive guy in the top 5. I would much rather have Davenport.

Compare tapes of Chubb and Landry and they are not even in the same stratosphere.

Landry is supported to have an already developed array of pass rushing moves, especially compared to Davenport. Have read it over and over but here:

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018HLandry.php

Is it more he doesn't use his hands well to disengage?

[woodbuck27]

Landry is supported to have an already developed array of pass rushing moves, especially compared to Davenport. Have read it over and over but here:

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018HLandry.php

Is it more he doesn't use his hands well to disengage?

That is a very respected Draft Analysis sire.

What does this site (DRAFT ANALYST) say and I'm checking it out here in this post for the first time:

http://draftanalyst.com/harold-landry

He's (Harold Landry's) ranked next to Bradley Chubb or NO. 2 and just ahead of Marcus Davenport at NO. 3.

EDGE /DE Harold Landry - Boston College


Weaknesses:

Undersized
Liability as a run defender
Lacks strength
Lacks length
Questionable motor and effort in run defense
Does not have a good fit in a 4-3 defense


Summary:

" ...Every year in the NFL draft, there are players who enter the college football season as one of the top prospects but end up sliding to be late first- or second-round picks. Landry could keep that trend alive for the 2018 NFL Draft. Early in the 2017 season, there were draft pundits who were projecting Landry to be a high first-round pick. However, his senior year didn't go as planned, and now, Landry would be fortunate to go on Thursday night of the 2018 NFL Draft. ..."

Now what do they say about EDGE/DE Marcus Davenport?

http://draftanalyst.com/marcus-davenport

Neg:

" Displays average quickness off the snap. Lack of bulk is an issue. Often just pins his ears back, rushes up the field and overruns the play.
Analysis:

Davenport was a dominant defender at the college level and offers a good amount of upside for the NFL. He’s a terrific pass rusher who must improve the details of his position and fill out his frame to meet his potential. There may be bumps in the road early in Davenport’s NFL career, but if properly coached, he has a bright future as a starter. "

Comment woodbuck27:

So *** this Site *** says NO to drafting either EDGE / DE Harold Landry or Marcus Davenport in Round One.


*** Draft Analysis.

http://draftanalyst.com

[woodbuck27]

I wouldn't be shocked to see the Green Bay Packers Trade down from Pick NO. 14.

So having analyzed that distinct possibility will they go for a Top Positional Prospect and Trade Up?!

If they stay at NO. 14 I see them NOT using that Pick to go EDGE /DE, but rather BPA CB (hands off WR Calvin Ridley_ size) and at NO 45 and 76 Find a solid OL/CB/WR and the BPA WR/CB @ No. 76.

Theor next Pick is NO. 101 that they can use to trade up from either NO. 45 or NO. 76.

I want to see the Packers get the best players and need oin Rd. 1-3.

[Bretsky]

Arden Key, not really any better than Landry. He plays more of a hybrid 3-4 outside linebacker than a defensive end, but really not impressed with him either.


The guy I like and he might be available in the second round for the Packers, is Lorenzo Carter from Georgia. He is more linebacker than defensive lineman. He had really good film against Notre Dame, and then some average film against Kentucky and Alabama. He plays more natural and with more flexibility than Landry or Key.

Sweat is also more of a defensive end than linebacker, but Carter is more fluid and uses better hands.

HAHA

A GENIUS PICKED HIM IN THE PR MOCK ROUND 2

TY for letting him make that pick

[red]

It’s nice to see the new GM use his pre draft visits to bring in guys we might actually draft, not just guys expected to be undrafted free agents.

Maybe this GM won’t miss on as many draft picks

[pbmax]

ESPN NFL Nation Mock Draft (their beat guys including Demovsky for GB)

1. Browns - Darnold
2. Giants - Barkley
3. Jets - Mayfield
4. Browns - Chubb (overkill; nice overkill; but overkill; almost anticipate trade down unless they really feel need more pass rush)
5. Broncos - Ward (thinks the two QBs they like are gone and would prefer to trade down)
6. Colts - Nelson
7. Bucs - James (need a DB in worst way, especially strong safety)
8. Bears - Smith (Nelson if he is there, but otherwise LB)
9. 49ers - Fitzpatrick (secondary needs all around)
10. Raiders - Vea (need to help Mack)
11. Dolphins - Rosen (they are scouting all QBs and Seifert thinks its not a smokescreen-bol Polian wants to fight Kevin Seifert now)
12. Bills - Allen (want to trade up for this QB)
13. Redskins - Edmunds (need D-could also be Payne, Polian thinks he is an OLB)
14. Packers - Davenport (RD-GB want 1of3 DBs and want trade up, MD is pick at 14, Polian and McShay love pick-think he's Ziggy Ansah)
15. Cardinals - Jackson
16. Ravens - McGlinchey (want to trade down into 20s and take WR or TE)
17. Chargers - Evans (working out QBs)
18. Seahawks - Moore (want to trade down for defense)
19. Cowboys - Vander Esch (Todd Archer has gotten the last two Cowboys picks correct apparently (Taco Charlton and ??))
20. Lions - Bryan (need D line help)
21. Bengals - Price (need a new Center)
22. Bills - Alexander (if got a QB, need DB)
23. Patriots - Landry (need some pass rush-Polian buys the injury excuse for 2017)
24. Panthers - Hurst (need a weapon but for some reason doesn't want a WR because Greg Olson ::shrug:
25. Titans - Hubbard (Vrabel clone?)
26. Falcons - Payne (have need on D Line and can't believe he is here)
27. Saints - Ridley (are you kidding me?)
28. Steelers - Reid (like Rudolph and Guice too)
29. Jags - Hernandez (need to rebuild interior of O line, not future QB)
30. Vikings - Ragnow (Spielman wants to trade down but needs O line)
31. Patriots - Miller (need blindside protection for Brady)
32. Eagles - Guice (want to trade down but have scouted this RB closely)

[red]

COrrect me if I’m wrong, everyone keeps saying Davenport is ziggy ansah

Isn’t ansah a 4-3 DE, not a 3-4 OLB?

We’ve made the mistake in the past of getting the DEs that can’t play OLB for shit

[Bretsky]

I keep hearing he's raw and needs developing

[pbmax]

COrrect me if I’m wrong, everyone keeps saying Davenport is ziggy ansah

Isn’t ansah a 4-3 DE, not a 3-4 OLB?

We’ve made the mistake in the past of getting the DEs that can’t play OLB for shit

New DC. Even if he is not a 2 point OLB, there is room for a hand in dirt pass rusher from the end. You still have Matthews/Perry/Fackrell/Biegel to handle any OLB calls.