IS IT TIME TO PUT UNTOUCHABLE TED ON TRIAL ? HOW DO YOU GRADE HIM ??

[Smidgeon]

Heyward is a top cb in the league.
Hyde made the probowl.

Now to show that a 2.4 is bad, grade every other GM on the "I'm glad he's gone" scale.

[Pugger]

Tretter didn't earn a second contract here since he was always hurt and Franklin was a wasted pick in the end. The outcomes for those two were poor.

Yes, but nobody complained when the picks were made. It does show you gotta have some luck too.

[red]

Well, it’s 3 years so we can grade 2015

Looks like a solid D

Got a backup RB and a JAG ILB left from the draft

[pbmax]

Tretter didn't earn a second contract here since he was always hurt and Franklin was a wasted pick in the end. The outcomes for those two were poor.

Does it matter if he earned a second contract with the Browns? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/clevelan...tretter-12403/

[Bretsky]

playing devil's advocate. It's a pretty well known Draft and Develop strategy that you pay to retain your best players. So Thanksted should be downgraded if/when he lets a best player go. I'm not really referring to Tretter here.

[pbmax]

playing devil's advocate. It's a pretty well known Draft and Develop strategy that you pay to retain your best players. So Thanksted should be downgraded if/when he lets a best player go. I'm not really referring to Tretter here.

Ishmael was talking about drafting success. But if you want to consider the whole term of a player's career, I think Ted could be docked a point or two for letting Tretter go. He would have been good depth the last year or two.

[Joemailman]

Ishmael was talking about drafting success. But if you want to consider the whole term of a player's career, I think Ted could be docked a point or two for letting Tretter go. He would have been good depth the last year or two.

That'a assuming he would have wanted to be a top backup here, when he could be a starting Center somewhere else. I think most guys want to play.

[call_me_ishmael]

Yes, but nobody complained when the picks were made. It does show you gotta have some luck too.

Exactly. I'm not criticizing Ted. I am looking purely at the outcome and results n years after the fact. I think it's pretty easy to see the quality of drafts decreased and the 2013 draft killed the Packers depth. 2015 is looking like an equally large depth killer. The data for the most part speaks for itself.

[call_me_ishmael]

Does it matter if he earned a second contract with the Browns? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/clevelan...tretter-12403/

Not really. He can be a terrific player for them but it doesn't change the fact the front office let him walk. They did not think he was worth the contract Cleveland offered him so they declined to match. Whether he is or not is sort of irrelevant to the outcome and career with the Packers. He was always hurt here so I get it.

[pbmax]

Not really. He can be a terrific player for them but it doesn't change the fact the front office let him walk. They did not think he was worth the contract Cleveland offered him so they declined to match. Whether he is or not is sort of irrelevant I guess.

But its a measure of drafting success that he is coveted and the reason the Packers did not pay him was because they found a better option.

[Joemailman]

Not really. He can be a terrific player for them but it doesn't change the fact the front office let him walk. They did not think he was worth the contract Cleveland offered him so they declined to match. Whether he is or not is sort of irrelevant to the outcome and career with the Packers. He was always hurt here so I get it.

Tretter was an unrestricted free agent. He could sign wherever he wanted. He didn't have to give the Packers the opportunity to match. The Packers had 2 starting quality Centers. They preferred Linsley. It wouldn't have made any sense for Tretter to stay here.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Tretter was an unrestricted free agent. He could sign wherever he wanted. He didn't have to give the Packers the opportunity to match. The Packers had 2 starting quality Centers. They preferred Linsley. It wouldn't have made any sense for Tretter to stay here.

A few yrs ago, NO wted a strtin caliber C n a 1st for curnt Pack TE Jim G. Todd had 2 C n a btr 1st than Sea.

Incpt, thy name is Todd.

[smuggler]

Tretter played in every game last year and was graded as a better player than Linsley... by PFF at least.

[Zool]

Janis - Average. I stopped reading there.

[Zool]

A few yrs ago, NO wted a strtin caliber C n a 1st for curnt Pack TE Jim G. Todd had 2 C n a btr 1st than Sea.

Incpt, thy name is Todd.

That's illegible and stupid. Kudos on the two-fer