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  • #31
    I’d cut Nelson
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
      I’d cut Nelson
      Unless he's willing to take a substantial pay cut, I'm afraid I agree. Unless he had an unreported injury, he appears to have lost his speed. Nothing but a possession receiver at this point.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #33
        I'm not concerned with Jordy or Cobb's value for 2018. If you could see the world through Hundleyvision™ these men would appear as translucent shimmers. Like a Predator with cloaking device enabled. You need to reach a certain level to unlock some characters.
        70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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        • #34
          Packers are spending somewhere around 36 mil next year for Adams/Nelson/Cobb. That is way too much for what they're providing.
          Go PACK

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
            Packers are spending somewhere around 36 mil next year for Adams/Nelson/Cobb. That is way too much for what they're providing.
            I agree with this. Don't have any league-wide comparisons, but my gut tells me $20million for Cobb/Nelson's 2017 production was overpaying. I don't see their production increasing substantially next year.
            If I'm the GM I try to re-do their contracts. Nelson is on the wrong side of 30, and both have taken a beating. The image of Cobb getting caught from behind by Nick Kwiatkowski (Bears LB) lingers as well.

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            • #36
              Cobb is 27 and would be in New England before Schefter Tweeted the news. He’ll have offers and won’t take a cut.

              Nelson you could do with short extension. He has fewer options at his age and price.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Cobb is 27 and would be in New England before Schefter Tweeted the news. He’ll have offers and won’t take a cut.

                Nelson you could do with short extension. He has fewer options at his age and price.
                Agreed. Cobb definitely looked like he had something left late in the season. Jordy looked like 2011-12 Driver.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #38
                  Jake Ryan will make almost 2 million in 2018 due to Proven Performance Escalator. http://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018...bonus-in-2018/
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    Jake Ryan will make almost 2 million in 2018 due to Proven Performance Escalator. http://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018...bonus-in-2018/
                    What a joke! You have to play 35% of the defensive snaps 2 of your first 3 years. It doesn't mean you had any performance when a Packers ILB plays 1 out of 3 snaps, it just means we had nobody else.

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                    • #40
                      With the salary cap increasing as fast as it does we need recalibration all the time. Something around 8.5M/year is now the market value for a starting quality guy. Jordy and Cobb will have cap numbers near 12.5M.

                      They were a rip off last year but these guys don't work on commission. I'm skeptical we could get more bang for the buck in FA. A short extension could possibly make Jordy cheaper. Let Cobb be motivated by FA. Monty is now in a log jam at RB and will be playing more slot. An aging Jordy could would be elite in the slot.
                      70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                      • #41
                        Gotta wonder how much Allen Robinson would cost. What if we cut Nelson and Cobb and brought in Robinson instead? I am not as high on Devante as some, so him at #2 would be solid.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                          With the salary cap increasing as fast as it does we need recalibration all the time. Something around 8.5M/year is now the market value for a starting quality guy. Jordy and Cobb will have cap numbers near 12.5M.

                          They were a rip off last year but these guys don't work on commission. I'm skeptical we could get more bang for the buck in FA. A short extension could possibly make Jordy cheaper. Let Cobb be motivated by FA. Monty is now in a log jam at RB and will be playing more slot. An aging Jordy could would be elite in the slot.
                          The issue though is that the Packers only have 1 receiver (Adams) who can be effective outside. This needs to be addressed either through FA or in the early rounds of the draft.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #43
                            As things stand right now, the Packers will be paying more to their WR's in 2018 than any other team. And it's not even close. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/wide-receiver/

                            23.3% of their cap will be going to WR's. That is crazy for a team with an elite QB. It's nearly twice what Patriots will be paying.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              As things stand right now, the Packers will be paying more to their WR's in 2018 than any other team. And it's not even close. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/wide-receiver/

                              23.3% of their cap will be going to WR's. That is crazy for a team with an elite QB. It's nearly twice what Patriots will be paying.
                              Now that the Packers have paid Adams, they're paying market value for everybody. But unless we expect Jordy and Cobb to produce below their cap number minus the penalty for cutting them, this is just the reality for 2018.

                              Its the story of our whole team... individually nobody seems like a ripoff; aggregated, you wonder why we're paying so much for the product on the field.
                              70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                                Now that the Packers have paid Adams, they're paying market value for everybody. But unless we expect Jordy and Cobb to produce below their cap number minus the penalty for cutting them, this is just the reality for 2018.

                                Its the story of our whole team... individually nobody seems like a ripoff; aggregated, you wonder why we're paying so much for the product on the field.
                                Packers would save about 10 million by releasing Jordy. 10 million puts you in the top 15 highest paid WR's. I don't see Jordy returning to that status.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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