Brian Gutekunst, Making No Sense

[texaspackerbacker]

My take away was that MM sucks as a coach. We have 2 speed demons but he insists on playing slow plodding old receivers.

Excellent Point! - get Janis and Davis on the field, on offense.

Excellent Point also in your other post - that "fading" due to Rodgers scrambling, of course, puts the blame squarely on the O Line.

[mraynrand]

Excellent Point! - get Janis and Davis on the field, on offense. .

My prediction is that Janis will never be more than a 10-20 catch/year WR. Davis still has a shot, but his window is closing.

[Pugger]

The average speed your WR's moved over the course of the season is a pretty worthless stat. How fast your WR's can run is one tiny component lumped in with things like: How much press coverage does your team face? How much of their yards come after contact? How many direction changes were in the routes they ran?

If just straight speed was the be all and end all Janis would be an All-Pro WR.

[Vincenzo]

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with looking at the overall team speed as a problem.
However speed is just one factor to consider here. When defending for example, body positioning and where the defenders eyes are focussed would be a higher priority in my opinion.
In the AFC Championship game Stephon Gilmore made perhaps the play of the game when he reached out and swatted the ball away.
Point is that speed often has very little to do with the majority of plays on the field.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

My prediction is that Janis will never be more than a 10-20 catch/year WR. Davis still has a shot, but his window is closing.

My prediction is Janis will never be given a chance to see what he can do, isn't his contract up this year? My guess is he goes to another team. Davis, meh...

[ThunderDan]

My prediction is Janis will never be given a chance to see what he can do, isn't his contract up this year? My guess is he goes to another team. Davis, meh...

I love posts like this. MM will never give Janis a shot because he hates him or some other reason. Coach and GMs and the whole staff gets judged on wins and loses. The staff is going to use every option at their disposal to win. If a player isn’t getting playing time it isn’t because the team won’t give him a chance.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Did I read this right: The Raiders' receiving crop was the 2nd slowest in the NFL in 2017? If there's an afterlife, Al Davis must be shaking his head and shouting the f-word angrily.

Speed is awesome in real life and definitely on Madden. The Packers do need to get faster at the WR position. The German Shepard can start by re-signing Janis. While pass catchers like Jennings, James Jones, Driver and Nelson played well with only average speed via precise route running, having a receiver with great speed would allow the Packer offense to bomb defenses into the abyss.

[texaspackerbacker]

Amazing how some posters never miss an opportunity to piss on Janis.

I doubt McCarthy hates him hahahaha. He may very well hate the idea of giving playing time to younger players at some positions over other players. There also really seems to be something to this preference for slower receivers thing. Of course, ability to get open and catch the ball is important too, right there with speed. Janis (and Davis) have caught it as well as anybody, and route running is pretty much a learned skill - so it's on the coaches if they haven't improved as much as young guys from other teams.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Amazing how some posters never miss an opportunity to piss on Janis.

I doubt McCarthy hates him hahahaha. He may very well hate the idea of giving playing time to younger players at some positions over other players. There also really seems to be something to this preference for slower receivers thing. Of course, ability to get open and catch the ball is important too, right there with speed. Janis (and Davis) have caught it as well as anybody, and route running is pretty much a learned skill - so it's on the coaches if they haven't improved as much as young guys from other teams.

Thunderdan misinterpreted me, I don't believe the Packers hate Janis, but I do believe young receivers need playing time to get better. I also believe Janis' window of opportunity with the packers closed quite awhile ago.

[mraynrand]

Amazing how some posters never miss an opportunity to piss on Janis.

I doubt McCarthy hates him hahahaha. He may very well hate the idea of giving playing time to younger players at some positions over other players.

This is a dumb take too. Stubby gave plenty of time to Jennings and Jones when they were young. Finley, Cobb, and Monty as well. Why? Because they had talent and knew what they were doing. Isn't it obvious that Janis doesn't cut it? Maybe the guy is good for a few patterns, but the lack of trustworthiness (and this comes from Rodgers, not Stubby) was a huge detriment. You can't play with a guy who doesn't do the right thing on almost every play.

[Zool]

Janice shines in garbage time. If the Packers just get down 21 every game, Janice will be an all pro.

[Bossman641]

Was this past season year 3 of waiting for Janis to blossom? Spoiler alert for 2018: its not happening.

[George Cumby]

Was this past season year 3 of waiting for Janis to blossom? Spoiler alert for 2018: its not happening.

IKR?

If the light bulb hasn’t gone on by now, it ain’t gonna.

[texaspackerbacker]

Like I said ....... dumbasses never missing an opportunity to piss on Janis.

[Zool]

Thankfully we have Tex at each Packers practice to see Janice in all his amazing glory.