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  • #16
    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
    If we really want to see history replayed, MM will be fired in two years after signing a long-term extension next year, and GuttyKlumps will first hire Brian Whatsis, the Notre Dame coach, then will fire him after his dog gets shot and will hire Brent Favre to bring back the glory days.
    I understand the analogy, but I don't see the Gunslinger coaching in the NFL. Too time-consuming. As a GM, sure.

    Elway hires a bunch of people to do the dirty work for him, sits in his office all day watching youtube clips of pro and college players, makes all the decisions and takes all the credits. I could see Favre doing something like that, preferably in the Green and Gold.

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    • #17
      I have the sneaking suspicion that Brett wants and maybe needs an infusion of cash. I cannot believe how many copper band ads I see with him and Jerry Rice.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        I have the sneaking suspicion that Brett wants and maybe needs an infusion of cash. I cannot believe how many copper band ads I see with him and Jerry Rice.
        Favre drives a Ford 150 and he wears that old Nike Golf hat everyday. Doubt he's broke. Probably doing all those commercials to pay his property taxes and his kids' tuition without draining the saving account.

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        • #19
          Or he's a narcissist.
          Originally posted by 3irty1
          This is museum quality stupidity.

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          • #20
            When the Packers had Stubby sitting in on the GM interviews it made me sick. Talk about a Ego Booster to McStubby. I really think it tainted the GM pool and made many back off when they couldn't name or fire the coach. The three headed answer to Murphy clusterfuck is a setup to failure. I've seen enough of Stubby and this year exposed him for the fraud he is...without Aaron Stubby would been axed years ago.

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            • #21
              What he say.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #22
                I'm not crazy about the idea that Murphy, and not the GM, will hire and fire the head coach (I don't think the sky is falling either). But once that decision was made, maybe it made sense that McCarthy would have a part in the interview process. Murphy might have wanted to make sure that the HC and GM have similar ideas on how to build a team. When the time comes to hire a new HC, I would expect the GM to have a role in the interview process, even though Murphy will make the final call.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Gotarace View Post
                  When the Packers had Stubby sitting in on the GM interviews it made me sick. Talk about a Ego Booster to McStubby. I really think it tainted the GM pool and made many back off when they couldn't name or fire the coach. The three headed answer to Murphy clusterfuck is a setup to failure. I've seen enough of Stubby and this year exposed him for the fraud he is...without Aaron Stubby would been axed years ago.
                  Stubby" sat in the GM interviews clearly because he's still a HUGE part of the equation at 1265 Lombardi Ave. Yes he should have been axed years ago, but feel good to know that his days are numbered, and those numbers are getting very small.

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                  • #24
                    Other than keeping Capers around too damn long what exactly is it about MM that you gentlemen find wanting? In most cases a SB winning HC whose team participates in the playoffs 8 straight years doesn't get canned unless their team starts losing more.

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                    • #25
                      Not that he hasn't been a good coach; that his expiration date is up. He has displayed a tendency, emphasized this year particularly, of throwing others under the bus. Case in point: Hundley, Brent. Not prepared? Oh, it was some offensive coach's fault. Fire his ass. Oh, and we needed more talent than we were getting - not the head coach's fault. Oh, and the defense has been lousy for some time, but now that that's been exposed for real due to Rodgers's injury, fire the DC. (I did agree with that move, though it was a couple years late.) And then the power grab.

                      So that's what's bothersome. My concern is that this could payoff short term, but that that would mean a long-term extension for BabyM and a long-term disaster would be the result.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                        Favre drives a Ford 150 and he wears that old Nike Golf hat everyday. Doubt he's broke. Probably doing all those commercials to pay his property taxes and his kids' tuition without draining the saving account.
                        Brett Favre Wiki:



                        A source and Favre's Net Worth (I don't know if this is accurate !?).



                        The Richest and NF and Look for Aaron Rodgers:


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                          Other than keeping Capers around too damn long what exactly is it about MM that you gentlemen find wanting? In most cases a SB winning HC whose team participates in the playoffs 8 straight years doesn't get canned unless their team starts losing more.
                          Pugger I must say when it comes down to the category of LOYALTY.Your the ultimate example of all that must mean.

                          Frankly LOYALTY for doesn't make Great Leaders Great Leaders inspire loyalty.

                          Pugger:

                          what would you deem as common characteristics of 'a Solid Leader'; and then look at MM and carefully and honestly examine all you see in him, and does he fit that mold of being a Great Leader?

                          Solid Leadership is a lot of things; but I want to express what I see a Leader needs in his / her makeup as a bottom line:

                          I believe it comes down to a bottom line of being respected. It sure helps before the Media to say things that are more inspiring that just your latest spin. If your ever going to say something you better make your audience is really comfortable and believing in most of what you say. Otherwise you might consider a career move and being 'a Politician' where being believed is moot.

                          Suddenly, Mike McCarthy's latest tact and the BS I see coming from him is that he wants his 'D' to outplay his 'O'. Out play an Offense which is led arguably, by the acknowledged finest talent in the NFL and Aaron Rodgers. Mike McCarthy and in his 'magical thinking', is calling for the near bottom dweller in the NFL and it's Defensive Secondary to suddenly help the Packers 'D" outshine the Packers 'O' in a certain Pass oriented dominated game.

                          Sweet Mary, Mother of Jesus; Lord Thunderin' that is such utter Bullshit !

                          Now think about that Pugger. Just take a day, a week; heck, take the whole month of March and think about Mike McCarthy's latest 'Spin words'. If you cannot come up with an obvious conclusion and his BULLSHIT then I again salute your LOYALTY.

                          Mike McCarthy and Great Leadership. Did I just write that sentence and allow it to stand? Yes I did. I did so because I need to help Packerrats understand my position and Mike McCarthy:

                          Frankly, if I walk into a Room with a bunch of athletes and want to inspire them to try harder and well Gee: 'Be the shine on my Team'.... I had better be able to look down and see my shoes.

                          Let's examine some recent Packer History Pugger:

                          Let's take it back to that game in Seattle where it sure looked like we had a great chance to get to the Super Bowl; and before MM went brain dead.

                          Do you remember that MM wasn't even sure where CM III was; and at a time in that game when the Packers 'D' had to shine and not toss the game, as it sure appeared to most of Packer Nation that 'D' was rocking back on it's collective heals as the Seattle Offense wasn't going to be denied a game that wa all but lost earlier.

                          So soon after blowing the game in Seattle we learn that MM is going to shake things up. He would 'surrender the play calling duties'; because he's now going to suddenly pay more attention to the Packers 'D'. Even to the extent of sitting in on Packer Defensive Position Package Meetings.

                          Suddenly we learn that Mike mcCarthy, was going to be 'all in' and the Packer 'D'. What in blue blazes was Mike McCarthy as Packer HC doing and the Packers 'D', before that embarrassing loss in Seattle?

                          Just more MM Spin !Was that spin inspirational to you Pugger !? Frankly IMO it was right before That MM spin; that If I was the Packer GM. I would have certainly FIRED both Mike McCarthy and Dom Capers after that embarrassment in Seattle and as a prudent or necessary start to my Off Season. The fact that didn't happen goes to the 'all a Family locked on the same Ole' attitude we have certainly been witness to and the Green Bay Packers. Yawn !

                          Mike McCarthy's the Packer Head Coach; the 'on Field Face' of the Green Bay Packers. Needs to at least appear as if he has half a clue; and time after time we just see the same Ole same Ole stubborn stubborn to learn /grow Mike McCarthy. We see MM getting fatter and fatter. We see Packer Players and over the top too many games lost to injuries; and what is Mike McCarthy's stand on that and this upcoming Season Pugger? What is the latest MM Spin and getting in Top Shape to play an NFL Schedule; and what does he do about his own appearance to inspire such rhetoric?

                          Where I come from and my time loving sports, playing sports and being 'a Leader'; studying what makes an effective Leader and winning. I can assure you that you better inspire by pure and simple EXAMPLE. I can assure you that you must be respected.

                          ** You don't garner respect by not being aware of what's going on around you in critical game situations.

                          **You don't inspire respect by not going for the throat of the opponent but rather taking the soft or conservative approach.

                          ** To take it to a recent 2017 Season game that might have been won.You don't inspire respect when you make very long shot decisions and game strategy and the cost giving up field position, to possibly lock your team completely out of that game just before Half Time. You make the decision to just get your Team in the Locker Room to re-group.

                          ** Being a Great Leader means your SMART; not daring at exactly the wrong time and situation. Being a Great Leader means your like Bill Belichick and overall respected around the NFL as SMART.

                          ** You don't inspire respect by FIRING (arguably) the TOP Coaches on your staff at the end of this past Season (see the 2017 Season ILBer Coach and the DL Coach),

                          ** You don't inspire respect by letting your QB's Coach go without consulting with that QB; and especially when that QB is Aaron Rodgers.

                          Mike McCarthy was in full blown 'throw anyone I can under the bus to save my own skin' this Off Season. That is clearly the case and to not see that as the TRUTH you have to be dumb to anything real and the Green Bay Packers.

                          My goodness if you were paying close attention MM even tossed his most trusting ally under the bus and his negative comments and Former GM Ted Thompson. His best move there was to clearly shut the 'H' up !

                          Aren't we as Packer fans NOT wanting the very best Program installed and executed to see OUR Beloved Packers get to Super Bowls? Isn't that what Packer Nation is all about? A really good start to that Program has to be a Head Coach who is a Natural Born Leader who has cerain RESPECT and there are over the top too many examples of hings in TRUTH where MM fails right there.

                          Frankly I see clearly that MM needs to shut his trap, and try to save his fat ass by admitting his many failures and back stabbing tendencies. He has to shut the 'H' up because his next Spin is simply tiring worn out SPIN.

                          I am amazed that MM is still the Green Bay Packers Head Coach, because he's terrible. When I see him on the sidelines with a play book in his face I just want to scream:

                          LOSER ! Mike McCarthy is clearly the Green Bay Packers 'Weakest Link'.

                          Please don't extend Mike McCarthy's Contract
                          Last edited by woodbuck27; 03-03-2018, 09:58 AM.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                            Other than keeping Capers around too damn long what exactly is it about MM that you gentlemen find wanting? In most cases a SB winning HC whose team participates in the playoffs 8 straight years doesn't get canned unless their team starts losing more.
                            I think he is sorta getting Parcells and Holmgren disease. Instead of changing how they operate they look to acquire more power while blaming others for failure.

                            Its not clear that is happening here yet. But some of his comments lean in that direction.

                            I am also not happy that one comment at the Combine about the offense's restructuring was that they were going back to look at film of what they did well during Rodgers time there during their rebuild. They need to move forward and combat what the defenses have done to neutralize them, not find some previous magical formula.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              I think he is sorta getting Parcells and Holmgren disease. Instead of changing how they operate they look to acquire more power while blaming others for failure.

                              Its not clear that is happening here yet. But some of his comments lean in that direction.

                              I am also not happy that one comment at the Combine about the offense's restructuring was that they were going back to look at film of what they did well during Rodgers time there during their rebuild. They need to move forward and combat what the defenses have done to neutralize them, not find some previous magical formula.
                              They need to do what I'm sure many Packers might like to do and that is tape Mike McCarthy's mouth.
                              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Zool View Post
                                Or he's a narcissist.
                                "Or"?

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