Defensive Backs

[Joemailman]

Kinda thought he'd get a better deal with some years

Finished the year on IR with a hand injury. That probably hurt him.

[Bretsky]

EJ GAINES HAS TO BE THE TARGET

[beveaux1]

No worries. House and Tramon Williams are still out there.

[call_me_ishmael]

Honey Badger signs for 7 million? That is an amazing signing right there. Dude can ball.

[HarveyWallbangers]

EJ GAINES HAS TO BE THE TARGET

It won't be E.J. Gaines. He's 5'9 1/2" and doesn't meet the size threshold the Packers want in their CBs.

[BZnDallas]

Like Hoosier mentioned before Breeland is back on the market, and Orlando Scandrick wants out of Dallas as well. Possibly a mid round pick (4 or 5) for Scandrick? Couple options left, but its getting tight. At least Gute looks like he's willing to utilize more avenues than TT.

[pbmax]

No worries. House and Tramon Williams are still out there.

I think you're right. But I can't believe its back to Tramon. He's done. And what is he gonna do for special teams?

[pbmax]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/16/kyle-fuller-gets-4-million-more-per-year-than-bears-had-offered/

Before Bears cornerback Kyle Fuller signed an offer sheet with the Packers, the best offer the Bears had made to him averaged $10 million per year, per a source with knowledge of the negotiations. Fuller emerges instead with a four-year deal worth $14 million per year.

The deal includes an $18 million signing bonus, payable within 10 days. Contrast that with the $13 million transition tender, which would have been paid out in 17 installments from September through December.

The deal also includes a $1 million base salary in 2018, $500,000 in per-game roster bonuses, and a $500,000 workout bonus. That’s cash flow of $20 million in the first year.

The cash flow through two years is $29 million, and it’s $42 million through three. The full value of the deal is $56 million over four.

Fuller got a nice but still palatable deal from the Packers. Not sure Russ Ball is the guy to design an undigestible FA offer.

Year 1 is $1mil(sal)+$1(other bonuses)+$4.5(allocated signing bonus) = $6.5 mil cap hit (that has to be because Packers don't have much left this year)

Year 2 looks like some combo salary+2 bonus+signingbonus = $13.5 mil cap

Year 3 = $17.5 mil cap

Year 4 = $18.5 mil cap

This is just the typical Packer deal sprinkled with more than the usual money you may not get on back end. Its $18.5 million in cash before the season begins that was the only question for the Bears. Fuller gets just shy of $15 mil per the first two years, better than the transition tag numbers if it repeated.

Packers took a risk of tying up the money to do a deal the Bears easily matched. Kinda dumb. Bears could have dragged it along.

[beveaux1]

I think you're right. But I can't believe its back to Tramon. He's done. And what is he gonna do for special teams?

I was kind of being facetious. I'm pretty stunned that we've done nothing on the CB front after our problems of the last two years. If there was ever an area that needed a free agent to be overpaid it was CB, and we overpay for an aging TE.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I was kind of being facetious. I'm pretty stunned that we've done nothing on the CB front after our problems of the last two years. If there was ever an area that needed a free agent to be overpaid it was CB, and we overpay for an aging TE.

Doing nothing is hibernating in a closet this time of the year awaiting the draft.

Gutekunst was interested in signing General Sherman, as well as a few other free agent corners. He signed Fuller to an offer sheet. The German Shepherd is not gonna win every hand he plays. But this much is certain: He's not hibernating. Expect Gutey to acquire, via free agency or trade, a seasoned corner prior to opening day.

Btw, Graham is 31. That's old for a RB, perhaps even a WR, but not a TE. Tony G was still pimping at 37. Witten is still pimping.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

Didn't realize DRC is available. Apparently, he wants to wait til April to sign with a team. DRC in the Green and Gold?

[mraynrand]

Doing nothing is hibernating in a closet this time of the year awaiting the draft.

Gutekunst was interested in signing General Sherman, as well as a few other free agent corners. He signed Fuller to an offer sheet. The German Shepherd is not gonna win every hand he plays. But this much is certain: He's not hibernating. Expect Gutey to acquire, via free agency or trade, a seasoned corner prior to opening day.

Btw, Graham is 31. That's old for a RB, perhaps even a WR, but not a TE. Tony G was still pimping at 37. Witten is still pimping.

The reality is that Gutekunst Maximus has lost a starting DB and starting WR and has added back a starting TE, a rotation DT/E, and a marginal backup QB.

[mraynrand]

Didn't realize DRC is available. Apparently, he wants to wait til April to sign with a team. DRC in the Green and Gold?

They'd be better of signing you

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The reality is that Gutekunst Maximus has lost a starting DB and starting WR and has added back a starting TE, a rotation DT/E, and a marginal backup QB.

Wilk is a starter. Can't wait to see Pettine throw out the "Maniac" package, a package in which Wilk lines up at DE across from the RT, Clark and Daniels line up inside, Perry lines up with his hand down at the other DE spot and the Claymakers lines up all over the place alongside 6 DBs.

This is not a baseless assertion, but instead, the words written on the subway walls by the prophets: Jimmy G and A-Rod are gonna light up the league in 2018.

Jordy had a nice career in the Green and Gold and he was the consummate pro, but while not yet over -the-hill, he's past his prime. Can't run anymore, and usually when a receiver can't run anymore, he falls into the abyss of oblivion. Yes, the Packers now have a large wormhole at the receiver position, but re-sign Janis and draft Ridley and the wormhole would dissolve into the abyss of oblivion.

Kizer? Marginal? I'll have what you're smoking. Dude's a Hundley-clone, and Hundley is an abomination. The Packers would be better off with the Champion of the Downtrodden, Kap.

In short, chill. Gutekunst is the antithesis of Ted Thompson.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

They'd be better of signing you

Perhaps. But doubt any of the pig owners in the NFL will ever sign me. I knelt during the anthem for the downtrodden at my flag football championship game last October.

Seriously, DRC would make a nice stopgap corner til Gutey acquires the next great shutdown corner. He's experienced and can still run. Can probably still cover, too.