Official Day 2 (Rounds 2&3) Of The 2018 NFL Draft Thread

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Arizona, Christian Kirk, WR Texas A&M

STRENGTHS
Finely-tuned athlete. Controls his throttle in his cuts with NFL-level coordination and ease of movement. Accelerates to his top speed quickly, shifting gears effortlessly in his routes. Ankle flexion and lateral burst to manipulate space, separating from coverage – ran away from Alabama’s Minkah Fitzpatrick on sharp inside-out patterns from the slot.

Natural running instincts to be dangerous any time he touches the ball. Flexible body control, reach and ball skills to snag throws outside his frame. Tracks well over his shoulder. Shorter, but not small, sporting a muscular frame. Professional make-up and not many 21-year old players as mature as him. Goal-oriented mindset and commits the extra time necessary between games. Leadership role grew each season and was one of the faces of the program in 2017. Played in all 39 games of his three-year career and recorded at least two catches in each contest. Impact returner skills, averaging 22.2 yards per punt return with six career touchdowns (36/798/6) – scored a touchdown every 6.0 punt returns in college, setting the school career records for punt return touchdowns in a season (three) and career (six)…averaged 21.2 yards on kickoff returns (49/1,038/1). – Dane Brugler 12/17/2017

WEAKNESSES
Shorter-than-ideal with a maxed-out build. Overpowered by physical defenders and knocked off his route. Above average catch radius, but lacks ideal length to consistently play above the rim or bail out errant throws. Inconsistent results with crowded catch zones. Ball security needs improved. Inexperienced as an outside receiver, working primarily in the slot at Texas A&M. Not an established deep threat and averaged under 13 yards per catch in his career. – Dane Brugler 12/17/2017

COMPARES TO: Tim Brown, Oakland Raiders - Lining up all over the formation, Brown could impact every inch of the field and Kirk has that same impact potential. Brown also averaged 10.2 yards per punt return over his illustrious career and that is an area where Kirk is expected to make an immediate impact.

IN OUR VIEW: Although he needs to hone his finishing skills as a receiver and return man to take his game from good to great, all the traits are there for Kirk to be an immediate slot weapon and return man. He might not have the ceiling of a NFL No. 1 receiver, but he has one of the highest floors in this draft class, which could land him in round one.

[esoxx]

For the draft capital the Packers have poured in to the secondary the last several drafts you'd think they'd be Legion of Boom level by now. Sure would be nice to pick high at some other positions on occasion.

[RashanGary]

I like both corners. I’m excited to see how the secondary shapes up.

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Josh Jackson is 2 inches taller than alexander but has the same length arms.


Alexander is gonna play like hes 5’11” because nobody bats footballs down with their forehead anyway.

i'm not sure it matters how tall those 2 are

i think we were able to draft alexander because we have kevin king. king is gonna line up on the tallest WR on every play, which is gonna let the other 2 guys just go nuts on the other wr's

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Los Angeles Chargers, Uchenna Nwosu, OLB, USC

STRENGTHS
Sports an imposing frame with broad shoulders, long arms and a chiseled musculature. Flashes real suddenness as a pass rusher, timing his burst with the snap to occasionally leave tackles flat-footed and grasping at air. He is a passionate pass rusher, fighting to get to the quarterback with a relentlessness and toughness that inspires teammates. His best attribute, however, might be the timing and awareness he shows when not getting to the quarterback, leaping into the air to tip passes at the line of scrimmage (13 passes defensed in 2017), creating potential turnovers and frustrating opposing quarterbacks. Against the run, Nwuso shows good strength to anchor and create a pile and he is quick enough to slip blocks. He is a classic drag down tackler with the long arms and strength in his hands to rip ball-carriers to the ground even when occupied with blockers. -- Rob Rang 12/28/2017

WEAKNESSES
Is not the sum of his parts... Inconsistent burst upfield, guessing wrong too often on the snap count, and is not as quick laterally. A bit stiff in his core, which keeps him from changing direction quickly and limits his ability to scrape the edge sharply. Struggles to disengage once blockers latch on, showing little technique as a pass rusher other than simple speed and bull rushes... Reliant upon his long arms to "catch" ball-carriers, showing just average balance and agility when needing to break down for secure tackles in the open field... Rarely asked to drop into coverage and shows limited awareness and agility there, despite his gaudy PBU numbers... Struggled with immaturity early in his career, getting sent home from the Holiday Bowl after a fight with a teammate. Nwuso did not register for classes at USC the following semester, opting instead to take classes at El Camino Community College in nearby Torrance and transferring back... - Rob Rang 12/28/2017

COMPARES TO: Cassius Marsh, 49ers - The 6-4, 245 pound Marsh rotated along the defensive line and linebacker at UCLA and in NFL stops in Seattle, New England and San Francisco, showing enough versatility to stick in the league but not enough polish at any one position to stay for long. He, like Nwuso, possesses intriguing initial burst, a flair for big plays and an intense kamikaze playing style that could either endear (or alienate) him from teammates, coaches and fans.

IN OUR VIEW: Nwuso played essentially a stand-up defensive end role in USC's defense, rarely dropping back into coverage. His strength and length in this role help against the run but he was his most effective tipping passes at the line of scrimmage. There are some traits to work with here but he is not the well-rounded prospect or even the traditional outside linebacker USC has produced over the past decade.
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I like both corners. I’m excited to see how the secondary shapes up.

i like both too

but not sure i wanted or we needed both

we got other huge needs

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For the draft capital the Packers have poured in to the secondary the last several drafts you'd think they'd be Legion of Boom level by now. Sure would be nice to pick high at some other positions on occasion.

Agreed. Its not been efficient at all.

I still think pass rush is 50% of the problem. Lotta pressure on Wilkerson working out.

[Joemailman]

Packers have had pretty good results with Iowa players. So there's that.

And they can usually play right away.

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3 years later and we had to repeat what we did in 2015 and draft cb's in the first 2 rounds

man did TT ever fuck up that year

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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

Eagles traded up to No. 49 I’m second round, one spot in front of the Cowboys. Clearly wanted to jump Dallas, which lost Jason Witten today, for a reason....

[mraynrand]

Agreed. Its not been efficient at all.

I still think pass rush is 50% of the problem. Lotta pressure on Wilkerson working out.

and Beigel and Fackrell and Lowry and Mt. Adams.

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lol

akers going off on the cowqueers

[mraynrand]

3 years later and we had to repeat what we did in 2015 and draft cb's in the first 2 rounds

man did TT ever fuck up that year

shit happens. I've been saying forever that Shield's noggin totally fucked up the plan. But yeah, Randall and Rollins looking like Edwards and Vinson. Can we trade Rollins for an all-pro running back please?

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Philadelphia Eagles, David Akers?. Shanker of the playoff field goals versus the packers? Shut up.

Dallas Goedert, TE , South Dakota St

STRENGTHS
Loose athlete for the position. Quick release off the line with above average seam speed. Uses nuance in his routes to stack defenders and gain a step on vertical patterns. Soft hands. Expands his catch radius to snare the ball away from his body with ease. Comfortable in traffic, routinely making grabs with defenders hanging on his back. Uses his body well to shield defenders. NFL-level tracking skills and hand-eye coordination. Athleticism allows him to be a YAC threat, setting up moves to make defenders miss.

Workable frame to add weight and get stronger – was only 205 pounds when he arrived at SDSU and wasn’t part of a workout program until college. Boasts the frame and strength profile to develop as a blocker. Matured into one of the team’s best workers, on and off the field, the last five years – “he’s obviously got a lot of natural gifts, but it’s his work ethic and football IQ that have made the difference.” – SDSU tight ends coach Luke Schleusner. Former walk on who worked his way to be in this position – earned a 40% scholarship as a redshirt freshman, 70% scholarship as a sophomore and 100% for his final two seasons. Above average production, setting several Missouri Valley Football Conference tight end records. – Dane Brugler 12/12/2017

WEAKNESSES
Needs to tighten his footwork and eliminate wasted body movements at the top of routes – likes to get a head start in/out of his breaks. Tends to lose focus at the catch point, prematurely taking his eyes away from the ball, leading to drops. Unique blend of power and athleticism as a ballcarrier, but will leave some yards on the field and needs to improve his decision-making.

Shows a baseline understanding of blocking technique and awareness, but needs time to hone these skills to better sustain. Didn’t miss a game the past four seasons, but was hindered at times due to minor injuries, including an ankle issue that knocked him out of a 2017 playoff game (Dec. 2017). Almost all of his experience came against FCS-level talent – faced three FBS opponents in his career (none in 2017), including an impressive performance at TCU (Sept. 2016) with five catches for 96 yards and one touchdown. – Dane Brugler 12/12/17

COMPARES TO: Travis Kelce, Kansas City Chiefs - Kelce is one of the best young tight ends in the NFL so it takes an impressive prospect to earn this comparison - and Goedert is deserving. His athleticism and body control for a player his size creates mismatches before and after the catch.

IN OUR VIEW: Despite all of his experience coming at the FCS-level, Goedert has the physical skill-set, dependable ball skills and motivated make-up to develop into a starting NFL tight end. He has Pro Bowls in his future.

[mraynrand]

lol

akers going off on the cowqueers

Dallas Goedert. BURN