Official Day 2 (Rounds 2&3) Of The 2018 NFL Draft Thread

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lol

akers going off on the cowqueers

Akers (sp?) is a moron. A week before he missed that field goal vs the Pack, he found out he lost all his money to a swindler.

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bears just traded into the 2nd without having a 2nd or a 3rd

did they just give up a 1st next year?

Almost

Dov Kleiman @NFL_DovKleiman
#Patriots get a 2019 2nd round pick and a 4th round pick in 2018 from the Bears for pick 51.

Good trade for the Pats

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Akers (sp?) is a moron. A week before he missed that field goal vs the Pack, he found out he lost all his money to a swindler.

Exactly. At least Drew Pearson is coherent.

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TB Bucs, MJ Stewart, UNC, CB

STRENGTHS
Competes with the right mindset for the position. Not tall, but well-put-together. Physical appetite in press and looks to disrupt the rhythm of the route. Turns his head to find the football. Highly aggressive at the catch point. Ball awareness and timing are assets – set the school career record with 47 passes defended. Quick-footed and flexible hip. Efficient drive quickness from off-coverage. Sound, but physical open-field tackler. Lowers his pads and drives through his target, finishing with strong hands. Routinely forces the quarterback to move his feet as a blitzer. Durable and didn’t miss a game the last four seasons because of injury. Experienced at inside and outside cornerback. Stepped in as the main punt returner in 2017, averaging 11.3 yards per return (15/170/0). – Dane Brugler 2/2/2018

WEAKNESSES
Lack of deep speed limits his ability to carry receivers vertically. Can be dusted off the line if he misses his jam. Doesn’t have an extra gear to close ground in pursuit. Too grabby in coverage, looking like a kid in a toy store on a 60-second shopping spree. Physical to the ball, but often overly physical. Not a twitchy mover and will struggle to recover after a misstep. Zero interceptions the past two seasons. Shorter than ideal to match up vs. bigger receivers. Misjudges speed in his pursuit angles. Off-field decision-making will be put under a microscope – charged with misdemeanor assault (along with former teammate Mike Hughes) following a 3 a.m. fight at a fraternity house (Oct. 2015), which left a victim unconscious with a broken nose; he was suspended two games and pled guilty, agreeing to do 100 hours of community service and restitutions. – Dane Brugler 2/2/2018

IN OUR VIEW
Stewart is quicker than fast with natural ball awareness and toughness to see early NFL playing time as a versatile nickel defender, but he will be a flag magnet until he adds more subtlety to his physical play style.

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Cincinnati, Jessie Bates, S, Wake Forest
Who's Your Mama is back!

STRENGTHS
Instinctive and trusts what he sees. Reads the eyes of the quarterback and sniffs out routes. Click-and-close quickness with a knack for arriving at the right time. Fluid movement skills to make proper adjustments from shadow position. Enough play speed to chase down ballcarriers from behind. Fearless as a downhill defender, taking proper run angles. Doesn’t bypasses tackle attempts like most defenders his size. Low tackler and gets his guy on the ground. Collected six interceptions the past two seasons with 95 interception return yards, averaging 15.8 yards per return with a pair of touchdowns (6/95/2). Experience as a punt returner, averaging 7.9 yards per return (22/173/0). Credits his preparation and film study for his play-making on game day. Takes a big brother approach with younger players and wants to be a future coach. – Dane Brugler 1/14/2018

WEAKNESSES
Lean-limbed and needs to continue and fill out. Lacks ideal bulk or play strength to handle work in the box. Would rather avoid blockers than go through them, lacking the muscle or hand usage to pry through a crowd. Bad habit of waiting on his heels as a run defender. Needs to do a better job squaring his target and wrapping to avoid sliding off tackle attempts. Needs to finish when he gets his hands on the football and should have had more than six interceptions in college. Doesn’t have ideal body armor or growth potential for the position – missed two games as a sophomore due to a knee injury (Oct. 2017). – Dane Brugler 1/14/2018

COMPARES TO: Justin Simmons, Denver Broncos – Although Bates isn’t as physical as a downhill run defender, he competes with the play awareness and decisive reactor to be in position to make plays, similar to Simmons.

IN OUR VIEW: Bates isn’t elite in any one area, but he is well-rounded with the cover instincts, play range and toughness vs. the run to contribute to a NFL secondary. If he can hold up physically, Bates will compete for a starting role within his first few years in the league.
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Hit edit instead of reply and lost my post.

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Panthers, Donte Jackson, CB, LSU

…STRENGTHS
Special speed. Instant accelerator to control spacing with receivers. Stays on the balls of his feet and rarely off balance. Collects his lower body with ease to drive on routes. Velvet feet in his pedal to mirror any type of receiver. Elastic body control to make fluid adjustments on the football. Always ball searching. Innate judgement to adjust and crowd the catch point. Collected 24 passes defended in 24 starts in college. Deadly speed as a blitzer. Tough tackler, striking low with burst to take ballcarriers off their feet. Emotional competitor and never gets bored, working to win the psychological battel with wideouts. Versatile starting experience and was trusted all over the secondary at LSU, logging starts at left and right cornerback, nickelback and free safety – also saw snaps at receiver. Experience as a return man, averaging 21.9 yards on kickoff returns (15/328/0) and 20.5 yards on punt returns (8/164/0). Ran track at LSU, including a personal-best 10.22 in the 100-meter dash at the SEC Relays. – Dane Brugler 2/20/2018

WEAKNESSES
Thin-boned frame with minimal body mass. Lack of height and arm length creates challenges against bigger wideouts. Below average play strength and out-muscled at the top of routes. Undeveloped route anticipation with too much guesswork with his movements. Opens his hips too easily and gets turned around by basic stems. Caught leaning from basic head/body fakes and grabs to recover. Not enough of a playmaker when the ball is in the air. Not an eager run defender with inconsistent results. Overaggressive pursuit angles, allowing the ballcarrier to make a move in the open-field. Questionable discipline with loose cannon tendencies – flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct after his middle finger gesture to the opposing crowd at Tennessee (Nov. 2017). Lack of body armor leads to injury concerns in the NFL. – Dane Brugler 2/20/2018

COMPARES TO
Ronald Darby, Philadelphia Eagles – While Darby was a tad bigger, he has above average speed and lower body movement skills like Jackson and both are more athletic freelancers than instinctive cover defenders.

IN OUR VIEW
Play speed is critical for the position and Jackson checks this box with a bold, red sharpie. He is dripping with natural athleticism to click-and-close in a blink, displaying the lower body muscles to spring in any direction. While undersized with undisciplined play style, Jackson has sudden-twitch athleticism to help mask flaws.

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Patriots from Tampa Bay
Duke Dawson, CB, Florida

Analysis

STRENGTHS
Possesses a compact frame with the light feet, fluid hips and quick acceleration to handle nickel duties in the NFL. Shows good coordination and balance in press man coverage, marrying a physical initial punch with quick feet to shadow receivers on short and intermediate routes. Sticks in the hip pocket of receivers, showing very good route anticipation and an instinctive feel for coverage, as well as the sharp cuts and explosive downhill burst to undercut receivers. Walks the line between aggressive play and holding, sneaking his hands into opponents to ride them throughout the route but rarely drawing flags from officials. Impressive hand-eye coordination (among defensive backs) to take advantage of tipped passes, showing rare focus and sticky fingers to take advantage of opportunities (see Michigan, Florida State - 2017). Generally reliable open-field tackler who flashes explosive hitting ability when he lowers his shoulder. Characterized as a team-first guy whose passion for teammates made him well-liked and respected in the locker room and with the coaching staff. - Rob Rang 12/21/2017

WEAKNESSES
Possesses an odd build for a modern day cornerback with a short, stocky frame normally associated with a safety or even a running back. Plays bigger than his size but simply lacks the height and arm length to handle the bigger receivers on the outside, too often losing out on jump balls. Quicker than fast, struggling to keep up with receivers on long routes. Flashes explosiveness as a tackler but doesn't use it often enough, resorting to grabbing cloth and dragging down ball-carriers - or worse, getting taken for a ride until teammates help - too often. More than willing to let teammates do the dirty work, only occasionally jumping into the pile or scrapping to rip the ball free when ball-carriers are being held up. - Rob Rang 12/21/2017

COMPARES TO: Jairus Byrd, Panthers. Byrd's instincts and sticky hands made him a star cornerback at Oregon with 17 career interceptions, prompting Buffalo to make him the No. 42 overall pick in 2009. His average speed (4.60) and short, stocky build (5-10, 207) ultimately earned him a switch to safety, where he continued his playmaking ways with stops in New Orleans and currently Carolina.

IN OUR VIEW: Dawson lacks ideal size but he is an opportunistic playmaker whose instincts, quickness and sticky hands make him an intriguing nickel corner or perhaps even a free safety conversion candidate at the next level.

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WILLIE BROWN!! Best NFL Films highlight of all!

Raiders, PJ Hall, DT, Sam Houson


Name: P. J. Hall
College: Sam Houston State Number: 92
Height: 6-0 Weight: 308
Position: DT Pos2: DE Class/Draft Year: rSr/2018
40 Low: 4.70 40 Time: 4.76 40 High: 4.85
Projected Round: 3 Stock:
Rated number 9 out of 168 DT's 97 / 2196 TOTAL

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I gotta bail after second round. Will check in if Packers trade back up.

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Ian Rapaport @RapSheet
Why is #LSU RB Derrius Guice sliding? Sources describe him as immature, high-maintenance. His visits did not go well. Some incidents in college teams found out about that were not reported.

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Pant Pant Pant

Thanks pbmax.

I thought you disappeared...tried to pick up the Round 2 Picks with zero preparation hahahaha.

It wasn't any fun.

[HarveyWallbangers]

WILLIE BROWN!! Best NFL Films highlight of all!

Raiders, PJ Hall, DT, Sam Houson


Name: P. J. Hall
College: Sam Houston State Number: 92
Height: 6-0 Weight: 308
Position: DT Pos2: DE Class/Draft Year: rSr/2018
40 Low: 4.70 40 Time: 4.76 40 High: 4.85
Projected Round: 3 Stock:
Rated number 9 out of 168 DT's 97 / 2196 TOTAL

This guy had crazy measurables. Then, I watched him against NDSU and he looked terrible. It was the NCAA semifinal game, and the Bison won like 55-13.

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Atlanta, Isaiah Oliver, CB Colorado

STRENGTHS
Well-built for the position with the arm length to recover when he finds himself out of position. Patient feet to stay in position and react to receiver movements. Shows bounce in his feet and smooth hips to shadow routes in his transition. Not shy using the sideline as an extra defender. Instinctive ability to judge/attack the catch point (35 passes defended). Ball searches and fights to the ground. Smart angles to the football as a run defender. Standout on all special teams coverages, including averaging 9.5 yards per punt return (19/180/1). Ran track at Colorado and won the 100-meter (10.82), 400-meter (48.15) and long-jump (24-1) at the 2017 Pac-12 Championships. Reliable character and a “phenomenal” person, according to Colorado head coach Mike MacIntyre. Productive collegiate resume. Athletic bloodlines – father (Muhammad) was a NCAA track All-American as a decathlete at Oregon and was drafted in the ninth round of the 1992 NFL Draft as a cornerback; uncle (Damon Mays) played wide receiver at Missouri and was a ninth round pick in the 1991 NFL Draft. – Dane Brugler 2/20/2018

WEAKNESSES
Upright pedal and transition. Movements lack suddenness. Enough speed for the position, but doesn’t close ground on routes once beat. Footwork needs cleaned up in/out of route breaks. Delays at the top of patterns and is late driving on throws/plays in front of him. Late to get his head turned and find the football. Not soft, but not the most eager tackler either. Only three career interceptions, an especially low number compared to his passes defended. Missed two games as a junior due to a right leg injury (Oct. 2017). – Dane Brugler 2/20/2018

IN OUR VIEW
Oliver put his name on the NFL radar when scouts arrived in Boulder to see past secondary prospects like Chidobe Awuzie, Ahkello Witherspoon and Tedric Thompson, yet it was #26 who kept making most of the plays. A well-accomplished decathlete in track, he is a balanced athlete with the competitive chops to challenge receivers up and down the field. Overall, quicker receivers will give him trouble, but Oliver is a classic press-man corner in the NFL with the height, length and athleticism to match up with size outside the numbers.

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I gotta bail after second round. Will check in if Packers trade back up.

Buy a hot dog and a Pepsi for whoever picks it up and Round Three.