Official 2019 Draft Thread

[run pMc]

Day 6

Jalen Jelks DE, Oregon

What do you think of his teammate, Justin Hollins? I've read some like him better but both would IMO fall into the Day 3/project category.

[call_me_ishmael]

My only concern with Ferrell is when the last time a line had 4 NFL picks on it, Mario Williams was the best player and the others busted. There's so much talent (and steroids) that it's hard to judge Clemson's highly paid DL.

[bobblehead]

I like Burns above Sweat and Polite.

Edge Rushers
1. Bosa
2. Ferrell
3. Allen
4. Burns
5. Sweat
6. Polite
7. Ferguson
8. Ximines
9. Miller
10. Jelks

I think Burns and Sweat put themselves in the top 10 conversation. The reason I like and believe Sweat is better comes down to the senior bowl where by all counts he impressed.

[bobblehead]

I don't think Ferrell or White will be there at 12. I do like Devin Bush with the late pick in the first round, or possibly the second round pick. I don't see a dramatic drop off from White to Bush

Bush shouldn't be there at 30 if white is gone at 12. Bush is exactly 1" shorter, ran .02 slower in the 40 and beat White in every other event at the combine. Both impress on film so no huge advantage there. 5' 11" compared to 6'? 4.42 compared to 4.44? I'll take the faster short shuttle and 3 cone 15 picks later every time. I would love a scenario where we get a great offer to move back 3-4 spots in this draft. Still land an edge, then move up 5 spots and get Bush.

[bobblehead]

Nutz, look up Ben Bonagu. His workout was awesome. I know nothing about him, but he ran a 4.58 and actually beat sweat in both jumps and the short shuttle.

[Deputy Nutz]

Justin Hollins OLB, Oregon
Films: Stanford, Arizona

First Take: Hollins is a traditional 3-4 outside linebacker. My first impressions are that he isn't quick enough off the ball, he isn't strong enough to consistently harass the QB, and his zone recognition on pass drops are not breath taking. His feet stop when the offensive lineman engages him and he is stop more often than he is not. He isn't a super aggressive player not looking to be a block destroyer or lay out on tackles. He needs to work on his ball get off, and using his hands when engaging offensive linemen, he needs to work on adding pass rushing technique. He should be a mid round draft pick.

[Deputy Nutz]

Day 6

Ben Banogu OLB, TCU
Films: Texas, Cal

First Take: Good not great first step. Same issues as a lot of these edge rushers as they need to look into the backfield for their keys and they don't read the block of the tackle. He stops his feet too often when the offensive linemen engages, doesn't work to get the offensive linemen on their heels. Bonagu lacks change of direction, and isn't overly impactful in the run game. He films like a better athlete than some of these other guys, but some of the same issues appear in his game as I have seen in the film of others.

[jklowan]

I think I would be happy with this...

12: EDGE MONTEZ SWEAT - MISSISSIPPI STATE
30: LB DEVIN BUSH - MICHIGAN
44: S TAYLOR RAPP - WASHINGTON
75: DL ZACH ALLEN -BOSTON COLLEGE
114: TE JACE STERNBERGER - TEXAS A&M
118: OT DERWIN GRAY - MARYLAND
150: G MARTEZ IVEY - FLORIDA
185: RB BRYCE LOVE - STANFORD
194: CB/S SHELDRICK REDWINE - MIAMI
226: DL DANNY WISE - KANSAS

[Deputy Nutz]

12: R1P12
DL QUINNEN WILLIAMS
ALABAMA
30: R1P30
OT JONAH WILLIAMS
ALABAMA
44: R2P12
LB DEVIN BUSH
MICHIGAN
75: R3P11
TE JACE STERNBERGER
TEXAS A&M
114: R4P12
WR EMMANUEL HALL
MISSOURI
118: R4P16
S JAQUAN JOHNSON
MIAMI
150: R5P12
EDGE JUSTIN HOLLINS
OREGON
185: R6P12
CB DAVID LONG
MICHIGAN
194: R6P21
QB CLAYTON THORSON
NORTHWESTERN
226: R7P12
OT ISAIAH PRINCE
OHIO STATE

I don't know how the first two guys fell, but I was taking them, no questions asked. The problem right now with this draft if the Packers don't use their first pick on an Edge rusher there are very few outside the top 5 maybe 6 that I really see making a difference in 2019/2020.

[Deputy Nutz]

Day 6

Ed Oliver DT, Houston
Film: Rice, Arizona

First Take: Oliver is a hell of a talent. The comparisons to Aaron Donald are really good comparisons, shorter defensive linemen that are ridiculously strong, quick and place a premium on technique. Oliver could have more pressures from inside than any other defensive rookie in 2019. He is that good. He is worthy of a top 10 pick in this draft, and there will be a team that will take him simply because they don't want to be the team that misses out on the next Donald. Oliver uses great leverage and his feet never stop moving. The key to his success is getting off the snap of the ball and engaging the offensive linemen and putting them on roller skates. The one negative is that he tires out by the end of games. In the NFL I am sure he will be rotated more and kept fresh. Houston didn't have that luxury with him and needed him on the field.

[red]

i'd like to get that ILB out of LSU, he seems like the best overall defensive player that could still be around when we pick

but we need 2 OLBs and 2 safeties

i'd love to sign one of each of those positions in free agency so the need there isn't so huge. then we can grab the ILB

[pbmax]

Sorry wrong thread.

Darian Stewart had two years left on his deal. His release saves the Broncos about $3.6M in cap space. Stacked safety group in free agency this year.

Another safety is available. I am starting to believe wist when he says it doesn’t matter

[red]

Darian Stewart had two years left on his deal. His release saves the Broncos about $3.6M in cap space. Stacked safety group in free agency this year.

Another safety is available. I am starting to believe wait when he says it doesn’t matter

sign 2

i kind of like the idea of weddle

he's up there in age, but the dude can play and knows how to play

his last contract was only 6.5 per year. so you would think he would get a bit less then that now, so he wouldn't break the bank

[Bretsky]

sign 2

i kind of like the idea of weddle

he's up there in age, but the dude can play and knows how to play

his last contract was only 6.5 per year. so you would think he would get a bit less then that now, so he wouldn't break the bank

How about a 2 Yr .....4-4.5mil/yr ? Will he still command that ?

[wist43]

I'm not keen on taking Bush... the only reason I want White is b/c I think he's special. Don't see Bush as being appreciably better than Martinez, so I'd rather focus on upgrading other positions.

Rumors have it that Gute is going after at least one edge rusher, and my guess is that White will be gone by 12... so maybe Burns at 12??

A couple of weeks ago I'd have said no to Burns at 12, but I'm thinking more highly of him now.

So say, Gute signs a guy like Shaquil Barrett at LB/Edge, and Amos at safety... add Burns at 12 and Adderley at 30/44??

Spend the other of 30/44 at OL or WR.

I would call that a successful offseason.