Official 2019 Draft Thread

[bobblehead]

Sweat to me is a 5 tech weakside edge rusher. He has really long arms and legs and looks goofy when he runs. Even with his combine numbers I don't see him as a stand up backer or end that can comfortably drop into coverage if needed. If his job is to simply rush the passer then put him in a 4 pt stance and let him loose from there. Same could be possibly said for Ferrell.

Burns could be used more as a stand up end, but make no mistake, he is still an edge rusher. He is just a bit more familiar with it.

My suggestion is that the Packers need to stop drafting the square peg in hopes they can eventually fit it through a circular opening. Sure, flexible defenses can have options for all different potential athletes.

I like to draft production first. Football players not athletes. Thing about Sweat is that he was productive. His agility scores and explosive scores were just as good as the only number anyone seems to notice. I think he would work out great at OLB especially if you start him out situationally behind the guys you just signed.

[bobblehead]

List has literally zero current busts and one player looking like he could be a bust (Jordan Willis) and includes at least one Hall of Famer.

Don't stop him, he's on a roll!!!

Or

Don't trifle me with details!!

[bobblehead]

i don't see how the other QB could be the top pick either, i think thats all media driven too

no one was saying he was going anywhere near the top until the combine, where he didn't work out. then all of a sudden the cardinals (who took rosen at #10 last year) are gonna take him number one

from what i can tell the only reason he shot up to the top of the draft was because he measured in at an 1/8 inch taller then people thought he was

fact of the matter is, i don't know if any of these QB's are really first round talents

Until recently the ILB that measured about 2" taller than people thought and put together a combine nearly identical to Whites got no love at all. Funny...its almost as if people react with emotion instead of facts.

[bobblehead]

plays the game like he has zombie blood pumping through his veins. Winovich is relentless, determined and takes no plays off, but his lack of physical traits and explosiveness as a rusher could limit his upside.

Sounds like John Randall. His upside was limited to perennial pro bowl.

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Chase Winovich- ?
Montez Sweat- ?
Harold Landry -? 1 season 4.5 sacks
Leighton Vander Esch- ? looks like a stud
Jordan Willis - 2 seasons 2 sacks
Justin Houston- stud
Jerry Hughes- 1st rounder. 9 seasons, 4 sacks. just over 5 sacks per season. not great
Jason Worilds- 2nd round pick. quit after 5 seasons, averaged 5 sacks per year. blah
Connor Barwin- 2nd rounder. 10 seasons, 56.5 sacks. 5.65 sacks per season. eh.
Cliff Avril - stud
Mark Anderson- 36.5 sacks in 8 years. 4.5 sacks per year. nothing special
DeMarcus Ware- stud
Brian Urlacher- stud

i stick by my statement

maybe the guys aren't complete bust, but half are very mediocre

[SMBASS]

I haven't heard a lot of buzz about him and I'm not sure where he's projected to go, but WR Hakeem Butler from Iowa State intrigues me. Guy is 6' 6" and knows how to use his body to block out defenders and position himself for jump balls. Ran a 4.48 40 at the combine so he's plenty fast.

I watched him play quite a bit in college and he's strong so he breaks a lot of tackles too. He really competes for the ball when it's in the air. He also showed up big against big time competition in key games which I liked to see.

[wist43]

I like to draft production first. Football players not athletes. Thing about Sweat is that he was productive. His agility scores and explosive scores were just as good as the only number anyone seems to notice. I think he would work out great at OLB especially if you start him out situationally behind the guys you just signed.

Sweat can't play OLB... don't care what his combine numbers were, he's simply not athletic enough to play in space.

That said, I think he's a tough, productive player, and will be a decent pro. His lack of bend and ability to win with speed/quickness limits him from being elite. Think he will be good though.

Yes, I know the combine numbers; but, watch his tape... he plays stiff and upright.

[wist43]

If you're going to draft a University of Michigan player, draft Chase Winovich, not Rashan Gary. Winovich will get after it. I don't know when he's projected to be drafted, but he would make a nice, energetic addition to this team's defense.

Based on what I've read, probably a 2-3 round pick. What you've said about him jives with the scouting reports about him.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/chase-...9-b78e6eda4b7f



He even has Clay Matthews' hair.

Not keen on Winovich. Given where he's projected to go, I'd much rather focus on other positions.

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Based on what I've read, probably a 2-3 round pick. What you've said about him jives with the scouting reports about him.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/chase-...9-b78e6eda4b7f



He even has Clay Matthews' hair.

aw, another member of the master race

just what packer fans crave

we are running out of white guys to worship on this team

[mraynrand]

aw, another member of the master race

just what packer fans crave

we are running out of white guys to worship on this team

this is a bad take, even if in 'jest'

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this is a bad take, even if in 'jest'

Hey packer fans love their white players, most have probably never seen a real life “negro”

And the state as a huge population of germans

[pbmax]

plays the game like he has zombie blood pumping through his veins. Winovich is relentless, determined and takes no plays off, but his lack of physical traits and explosiveness as a rusher could limit his upside.

Sounds like John Randall. His upside was limited to perennial pro bowl.

Randall is the comparison Oliver is getting.

[RashanGary]

I like winnovich. Fast, passionate, agile, loves football. Lacks power, but really is sort of a clay Matthews kind of player. Clay was better before the steroid investigations. Winnovich might not be quite as strong as clay, but he’s a little faster. He’d be a really cool pick at some point. I’d be very excited!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

this is a bad take, even if in 'jest'

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[mraynrand]

Fun facts: Homo Sapiens were all black at one point in time. Over time, groups parted ways as they chased game. They met and fucked with other species of homos before eventually annihilating said homos. As time passed, certain groups became isolated. “Race” is the offspring of the incesteous breedings between homogeneous humans within an isolated ecology, with respect to time.

As an answer to the question: "Describe the role of reproductive isolation in speciation" you receive 1 of 5 possible points. See me after class.