The Official Pack-St. Louis Rams of LA Discussion Thread

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Hard to support that, because Cheat is the only guy really to properly employ Belichickism. No other team since the Cowboys has been able to get three championships; of the five (I think it's five - Denver, Tampa, Pitt, Balt, Giants) teams that have 2, 3, had pretty different team compositions each time. It's just really hard to repeat, even with, and maybe in part because of exceptional QBs, in this era of extreme NFL socialism.

Belichickism does allow Cinderallas to have their days (see balding eagles last season with foles), but mostly, it is favorable to the team with a “12” on its roster. Just to be clear, I ain’t talking about any wanker wearing #12. Talking about the team with a Brady-elite QB.

Packers have a 12. Todd was mother of incompetence with that draft and development bullshit.

[mraynrand]

Todd was mother of incompetence with that draft and development bullshit.

If Ted was the worst, then where do you rank Michael Lombardi

[Cheesehead Craig]

Cook. The. Cap.

Rodgers’ contract could’ve been structured to count only, say, $10 M against the cap this year. Mack, $5 M.

Yes, you’re “backloading” the contracts, and who knows, in a couple of the years, hopefully, the capitalist economy could completely tank into the abyss of oblivion due to a full-scale world-wide rebellion. But alas, the math says that in the next decade or so, the fat pigs will only get fatter.

Cap hell? The shit doesn’t exists anymore. In the near future, the math says, teams will still be bailed out by the networks...in addition to the internet.

As a wise man once said, the cap serves no purpose nowadays, but as an excuse for the pigs to cut labor expenses. Think Jerry Jones gives a fuck that Dez is counting $10 M or whatever in dead money against the Cowboys’ cap? Nada. Jones is totally aroused in that he’s not paying Dez $15 M this season.

Rodgers and Mack is easily debunkable.

Mack wanted to be the highest paid defensive player. His current contract counted $13M on the cap and you think he's going to take a pay cut on the richest deal for a defensive player? Laughable.

Same with Rodgers. His SB is $11M, add in the massive roster bonuses and there's no way to have him only count $10M towards the cap. Heck, the roster bonuses are protecting the team in the short term from him having a career threatening injury.

You think a player is going to sign a back-loaded deal anymore? Hell no, they know they can be cut at any time or their career is over on the next snap due to injury. They want their money upfront and as quickly as possible. It's disregarding reality to think otherwise.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Rodgers and Mack is easily debunkable.

Mack wanted to be the highest paid defensive player. His current contract counted $13M on the cap and you think he's going to take a pay cut on the richest deal for a defensive player? Laughable.

Same with Rodgers. His SB is $11M, add in the massive roster bonuses and there's no way to have him only count $10M towards the cap. Heck, the roster bonuses are protecting the team in the short term from him having a career threatening injury.

You think a player is going to sign a back-loaded deal anymore? Hell no, they know they can be cut at any time or their career is over on the next snap due to injury. They want their money upfront and as quickly as possible. It's disregarding reality to think otherwise.

The salary cap is just an accounting item, and all accounting items can be cooked. There are at least a dozen ways to cook Rodgers’ recent contract.

Backloading a contract with respect to the cap is just diverting titanic cap hits to the back end of the contract, which the networks and internet will bail out. It doesn’t matter to Rodgers if his cap hit this year is $10 m or $100 m, he’s still getting every penny of the guaranteed frogskins on his contract.

The Packers certainly have the frogskins to make Rodgers the highest paid O-player AND Mack the highest paid D-player. The cap is irrelevant.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

If Ted was the worst, then where do you rank Michael Lombardi

If Lombardi had a 12, he would never hibernate in a closet season after season like Todd did. Lombardi woulda acquired Beast Mode, Tony Gonzalez, Kap and a lotta other hotshot vets of NFL wars.

[mraynrand]

If Lombardi had a 12, he would never hibernate in a closet season after season like Todd did. Lombardi woulda acquired Beast Mode, Tony Gonzalez, Kap and a lotta other hotshot vets of NFL wars.

strong GM moves!

[pbmax]

The cap is irrelevant.

Yes that is why Belichick kept convincing Brady to sign below market deals.

That is why teams with low cost quality QB staters suddenly get good.

That is why the Cowboys blew up their very good defense of a few years ago AND let go of Romo.

All cap dollars come to term in five years max. You can miss one major deal and live with it for two years. You miss two and it’s lights out.

[mraynrand]

If Lombardi had a 12, he would never hibernate in a closet season after season like Todd did. Lombardi woulda acquired Beast Mode, Tony Gonzalez, Kap and a lotta other hotshot vets of NFL wars.

You should blame extreme NFL socialism. Why should competent franchises be burdened with drafting at the bottom of every round?

[Vincenzo]

It’s gonna be like a Donkey vs a Racehorse!

[mraynrand]

It’s gonna be like a Donkey vs a Racehorse!

Don't be an ass!

[Tony Oday]

Anti is literally too dumb to argue against.

[ThunderDan]

Anti is literally too dumb to argue against.

But I am sure he has won the Super Bowl 5 years in a row playing Madden in his mother’s basement.