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  • #31
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    There were doing that, not with Cobb but with Monty. And a few nice runs or catches, but overall it wasn't working well. But screens, blocking first than catch the ball out of the backfield, running occasionally from shotgun, he was doing all this stuff.
    I don't remember Monty catching passes - maybe they flipped him some screens or checkdowns. I barely remember those plays. Why not occasionally send him down field on pass routes?

    I agree with SavedbyGrace that the Packers mostly tried to use him like a traditional running back, which Monty certainly is not.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
      I don't remember Monty catching passes - maybe they flipped him some screens or checkdowns. I barely remember those plays. Why not occasionally send him down field on pass routes?

      I agree with SavedbyGrace that the Packers mostly tried to use him like a traditional running back, which Monty certainly is not.
      They do, though last year I think they liked passing to Wiliams most. But the most common route is to check pass pro then leak out to a route. Rodgers rarely takes that option though.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #33
        There is a simple scheme fix for the Montgomery problem.


        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by red View Post
          and only 1 player remains from 2013

          TT was not a guru, and destroyed this team
          I wonder how many of those players no longer on the roster from previous drafts were scouted and recommended by Gutey when he was working for TT. Doh!
          "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            There is a simple scheme fix for the Montgomery problem.


            A safety? Looks like Monty’s feet crossed the end zone before the teammate tackle.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
              A safety? Looks like Monty’s feet crossed the end zone before the teammate tackle.
              Once again showing you have no football knowledge. It's the ball dumbass not the feet that have to cross the plane.

              It even says that in the video.
              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

              -Tim Harmston

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                Once again showing you have no football knowledge. It's the ball dumbass not the feet that have to cross the plane.

                It even says that in the video.
                I know, man. I know.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                  Once again showing you have no football knowledge. It's the ball dumbass not the feet that have to cross the plane.

                  It even says that in the video.
                  Now i ain’t a fuckin Queen fan, but in my glorious youth, I saw plenty of Cris Carter sideline catches where the rock flew OB, but were ruled complete cos Carter had both feet inbounds.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    There is a simple scheme fix for the Montgomery problem.


                    Oh my fucking God. That is precious.

                    There may have been some helmet-to-helmet on the hit, otherwise excellent judgement and execution.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      They do, though last year I think they liked passing to Wiliams most. But the most common route is to check pass pro then leak out to a route. Rodgers rarely takes that option though.
                      I remember even old thunder thighs Edgar Bennett would run pass routes 20 yards downfield. Why not let ex-WR Monty do some sophisticated patterns downfield with some linebacker trying to cover? I suppose the answer may be that the pass protection is not good enough to risk it.

                      The west coast offense used to feature fullbacks who could block for the running game, plus run some short pass patterns. Not sure why I mention this now. Wish we had triple threat, athletic fullbacks back in the game. I always like teams that use backs outta the backfield on patterns, not just a slot guy who has a safety spying him. Element of surprise.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                        I remember even old thunder thighs Edgar Bennett would run pass routes 20 yards downfield. Why not let ex-WR Monty do some sophisticated patterns downfield with some linebacker trying to cover? I suppose the answer may be that the pass protection is not good enough to risk it.

                        The west coast offense used to feature fullbacks who could block for the running game, plus run some short pass patterns. Not sure why I mention this now. Wish we had triple threat, athletic fullbacks back in the game. I always like teams that use backs outta the backfield on patterns, not just a slot guy who has a safety spying him. Element of surprise.
                        Unless he can do the William Henderson hurdle, no thanks.
                        All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                          I remember even old thunder thighs Edgar Bennett would run pass routes 20 yards downfield. Why not let ex-WR Monty do some sophisticated patterns downfield with some linebacker trying to cover? I suppose the answer may be that the pass protection is not good enough to risk it.

                          The west coast offense used to feature fullbacks who could block for the running game, plus run some short pass patterns. Not sure why I mention this now. Wish we had triple threat, athletic fullbacks back in the game. I always like teams that use backs outta the backfield on patterns, not just a slot guy who has a safety spying him. Element of surprise.
                          If any RB could catch 20 yard routes, it should have been Monty. He was drafted and made an NFL roster as a WR. Not only that, but he was also getting playing time on a Rodgers' led team as a WR. I usually refrain from questioning play calls and design because I'm not knowledgeable enough to critique those, but Monty seems like a huge missed opportunity.
                          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                          • #43
                            I tend to agree that we haven’t maxed Ty or people like Cobb. But - with where this team is at - Ty never fit in. They used him as a traditional Rb for a period and he was oft injured. I hope he does well with the Ravens.
                            The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                            Vince Lombardi

                            "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                              I hope he does well with the Ravens.
                              I'll wish him luck the old showbiz way, "Break a leg!"

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by red View Post
                                and only 1 player remains from 2013

                                TT was not a guru, and destroyed this team
                                Plenty of TT picks that arent' utilized by MM go on and are successful elsewhere.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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