Hypothetical Next Coach of the Green Bay Packers

[QBME]

Been following this thread and what comes to my alleged mind is...if/when we bring in a new HC, does the rest of the coaching staff get blown up? Getting rid of McCarthy is fine, along with Philbin - they're running the same offense that Favre did. That's what has AR running all over because the opposition has seen it a thousand times on film.

Pettine may be the answer. He did a good job in Cleveland before Haslam inserted himself. But he"s a defense orientated guy and would need to find a fresh OC who can bring the offensive scheme into the 21st century. Nobody straight from the college ranks, and no former Packer player with whom the hoi polloi are enchanted.

We've got a 3 - 4 year window left

[Joemailman]

Been following this thread and what comes to my alleged mind is...if/when we bring in a new HC, does the rest of the coaching staff get blown up? Getting rid of McCarthy is fine, along with Philbin - they're running the same offense that Favre did. That's what has AR running all over because the opposition has seen it a thousand times on film.

Pettine may be the answer. He did a good job in Cleveland before Haslam inserted himself. But he"s a defense orientated guy and would need to find a fresh OC who can bring the offensive scheme into the 21st century. Nobody straight from the college ranks, and no former Packer player with whom the hoi polloi are enchanted.

We've got a 3 - 4 year window left

I think the most likely scenario would be to hire an offensive coach and bring Pettine back. Pettine has said he's not interested in being a HC again. Although he may change his mind at some point, I don't think it would be difficult to get him to stay here as DC.

[QBME]

I think the most likely scenario would be to hire an offensive coach and bring Pettine back. Pettine has said he's not interested in being a HC again. Although he may change his mind at some point, I don't think it would be difficult to get him to stay here as DC.

So, an offensive HC with a new OC? Might be a little tricky as a HC (in my opinion) needs to be strong enough to want his own staff. But smart enough to recognize what is in place is pretty good.

All I think I know is on offense what used to be known as "trick" plays are becoming more and more successful. Really quick look here, oh wait, its over there stuff are becoming the coin of the realm.

And while I'm at it, PB should give a quick primer on the differences between an End Around vs. a Reverse vs. a Double Reverse. The so called expert analysts were creaming themselves yesterday describing the Carolina long TD run as a rare double reverse. Idiots.

[pbmax]

And while I'm at it, PB should give a quick primer on the differences between an End Around vs. a Reverse vs. a Double Reverse. The so called expert analysts were creaming themselves yesterday describing the Carolina long TD run as a rare double reverse. Idiots.

The guys who read in Game Books to their databases complain about this too. Seems official scorers don't know the difference.

Everyone always forgets the 1st sideline to other sideline handoff is an end around. Then second handoff is the reverse. Then third handoff is showing off. Or a double reverse.

[Bretsky]

This guy would be interesting. Comes from the Kyle Shanahan/Sean McVay coaching tree. Taking his lumps as OC at Tennessee this year, but there's a real lack of talent there. Did a great job as OC at LA last year. Left LA for Tennessee because he wanted to call plays.

He was interesting, but to me I'd clearly take the VIkings OC over him

[QBME]

. Then third handoff is showing off.

[texaspackerbacker]

Somebody mentioned a 3-4 year window ...... Rodgers is 7 years younger than Brady, who is still going strong. I expect no less from Aaron.

We do NOT need a new coach to "rein in Rodgers". If McCarthy goes at all in the near future, we need a coach who will will subordinate his own ego to the good of the present - Rodgers unleashed to pass pass pass, Pettine's creative D schemes, etc., and maybe do a better job with attention to detail for in-game situations. Who would that be? I honestly don't know. None of the names I've heard so far.

[Joemailman]

He was interesting, but to me I'd clearly take the VIkings OC over him

Do you think the Vikings would let their OC leave after 1 year to go coach the Packers?

[call_me_ishmael]

Do you think the Vikings would let their OC leave after 1 year to go coach the Packers?

I don't think they have any say in the matter since it'd be a promotion. That said, I understand why some people love him, but to me I'm not totally convinced he's ready. Minnesota hasn't exactly lit the world on fire this year.

What about somebody like Tom Herman? Kind of a dark horse obviously but a very successful track record and proved he could win on the big stage where as other college coaches failed. That said, he probably makes too much money to come to GB.

[mraynrand]

Bring someone in who can score points with the most talented QB to ever play the game.

I don't think Marino can go anymore, regardless of surrounding cast.

[mraynrand]

Darrell Bevell is available...

[mmmdk]

Why is it hypothetical that Packers will get a new HC after this season? Pack won't win the SB and I don't see Packers even getting to the playoffs. I'd even be ok with firing Stubby now or at any other moment during this season. Firing Stubby soon would be a great job advert around the league and what not!

[mraynrand]

Why is it hypothetical that Packers will get a new HC after this season? Pack won't win the SB and I don't see Packers even getting to the playoffs. I'd even be ok with firing Stubby now or at any other moment during this season. Firing Stubby soon would be a great job advert around the league and what not!

It's possible Murphy and Gute think the problem was personnel and TT - if so, they want to retain Stubby and upgrade the players he has. Packers decline following 2010 began as players dropped off from decline/age, retirement or injury (Collins, Woodson, Pickett, Finley, Raji, Matthews, etc. etc.). Signing Peppers was a reprieve and they shoulda won in 2014. But here we are with a lot of failed or meh picks and a thin roster. Maybe someone can explain how that's Stubby's fault.

[texaspackerbacker]

I hope this post (#73) is not just your usual sarcasm, Rand, because it makes a helluva lot of sense - that Murphy and Gute would be thinking just like me.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Maybe someone can explain how that's Stubby's fault.

Remember when Sherman confronted Sapp post-game about Sapp's monstrous hit on Clifton? A team is a reflection of its coach. The Packers under Sherman, especially under Sherman the GM/Coach, were tough as fuck and they refused to be anyone's bitch. The Packers never missed the playoffs under Sherman the GM/Coach. Playoffs! Pack haven't made the playoffs in eons.

McCarthy refuses to play starters in the preseason, refuses to tackle in practice; hell, the fat man refuses to practice on Fridays. No wonder the Packers define milksopism, often start slow, they can't tackle and they're always unprepared.

Worst of all, I've personally met orangutans that were smarter than McCarthy. The Packers are as dumb as fuck, and McCarthy's not doing shit about that stupidity cos he's retarded about accountability.