What's the roster makeover going to look like, who stays/goes??

[pbmax]

Crosby's line is: 3-3 9-10 6-10 4-6.

4-6 is 33%? As I see it, only one guy has attempted more from 50+ and only three have attempted more from 40-49. Crosby basically hasn't missed from under 40 (Detroit is the 1), and he's 6-10 rather than 8-10 from 40-50 because of Detroit. Like I said, it looks dramatically worse because of Detroit. The 12-13 from inside 39 ranking 25th is misleading of course. There's no need to incorrectly list his percentages and show misleading percentages to make him look worse. The numbers are all there. The honest summary is that he had one horrible day and 2-3 other keys misses. That's a bad year for a placekicker.

I can't help you.

[denverYooper]

I can't help you.

Doesn't this belong in the Moss thread?

[pbmax]

Take away Detroit and he's right on his career averages.

The problem is that his career averages are now below league averages.

[pbmax]

Doesn't this belong in the Moss thread?

I know what you all want me to say. But I am going to speak TRUTH.

We must all Data -> Sort -> Custom better to fix this thing.

[Carolina_Packer]

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-p...us-as-it-seems

If Demovsky is right about the roster bonus not being guaranteed and being due the third of fifth day of the new League year, Packers could survive the hit by spread it out over two years.

To get out of 2019 they take an $11,100,000 cap hit with a cap savings of $14,700,000. But they are not going to want to pay that cash, which reduces the cap savings to $11,000,000. Still doable, even more doable if they designate him June 1 cut and spread the dead cap money out over two years.

If he survives 2019, cutting him in 2020 is easy: POTENTIAL OUT: 2020, 3 YR, $38,775,000; $7,400,000 DEAD CAP which could be easily absorbed by the 2020 cap savings.

Which would be a harder pill to swallow for the team?

His lack of production and injury concerns affecting his impact to the team while taking up a valuable roster spot (next year)

or

the financial burden of his cap hit should he be cut before his contract expires?

Tough decisions.

[pbmax]

Which would be a harder pill to swallow for the team?

His lack of production and injury concerns affecting his impact to the team while taking up a valuable roster spot (next year)

or

the financial burden of his cap hit should he be cut before his contract expires?

Tough decisions.

It is tough, especially if you don't want to pay the $4.7 mil because you think he's not going to be back. You can't draft or sign FA and then determine how much he is worth to keep around. If you want to make that call, you'd have to pay him then take the hit later if you sign someone with a big price tag.

[pbmax]

OK, here are the corrected numbers for Crosby compared to others this year. Hopefully this chart stands scrutiny better,

Overall FG% is 75.9%, ranks 27th

FG% 1-39 is 92.3%, ranks 25th

FG% 1-49 is 78.2%, ranks 28th (6-10 from 40-49)

FG% 50+ is 66.67%, ranks 15th


Having a better year from 50+ than 40-49.

[mraynrand]

The problem is that his career averages are now below league averages.

It is a problem. BUT, "As I see it, only one guy has attempted more from 50+ and only three have attempted more from 40-49."

Meaning, there is an explanation (at least a partial explanation) that doesn't involve him getting worse relative to the league. Maybe get in the red zone more and he looks a whole lot better. Or, he could just sign with a dome team after GB and then parlay that into his next contract. Of course, he may want to steer clear of the Lions....

[mraynrand]

FG% 1-39 is 92.3%, ranks 25th

I know, the whole class took the test and got 100%, and poor little masie got one wrong. Lowest A in the class.

[wist43]

I don't think there is any hemming and hawing about the cap when it comes to Perry - he's gone.

They'll just do it whatever way works best with their plan moving forward. My guess would be shooting for the SB in 2020.... so whatever cap gymnastics make the most sense to move toward that as the goal.

[mraynrand]

I don't think there is any hemming and hawing about the cap when it comes to Perry - he's gone.

They'll just do it whatever way works best with their plan moving forward. My guess would be shooting for the SB in 2020.... so whatever cap gymnastics make the most sense to move toward that as the goal.

The one light of optimism this season has given me is that it's very clear that Murphy/Gute realize the roster has gone to seed. They don't seem at all worried about torpedoing anyone they don't think measures up.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm as negative as anyone about Ted Thompson and the job he did, but I disagree about the overall badness of the Packers current roster. Aside from the greatest QB in the history of the world, we have the best RB we've had since Ahman Green, the best WR since who? maybe Sterling Sharpe? We have a nice group of other young WRs; We have at least a decent TE. Whatever the case with our O Line, we have a mobile QB with a history of not needing very good O Line blocking.

As for the Defense, 1. we've had great teams other years when we just had to outscore teams when our D couldn't stop them. 2. We've got a D Coordinator who many in here wanted when they whined so profusely about Capers. 3. We've got at least a few quality young players on D: Clark, Alexander, maybe Martinez, Fackrell, Gilbert, Jones, and Jackson.

The bottom line is, Aaron Rodgers plus just about anything means a competitive high level team.

[bobblehead]

The problem is that his career averages are now below league averages.

This. Kickers are getting better all the time. I don't have a big problem with Bing having one bad year, but he is paid as a top kicker and is no longer a top kicker.

[bobblehead]

The one light of optimism this season has given me is that it's very clear that Murphy/Gute realize the roster has gone to seed. They don't seem at all worried about torpedoing anyone they don't think measures up.

This roster isn't so bad. We are hurting at OL and WR because of defensive heavy drafts. If we had re-signed Hyde and Hayward this whole thing might have gone a dramatically different way. Same goes for if Shields hadn't suffered so many concussions. It didn't help that the last handful of drafts didn't have many OL prospects overall.

[denverYooper]

The one light of optimism this season has given me is that it's very clear that Murphy/Gute realize the roster has gone to seed. They don't seem at all worried about torpedoing anyone they don't think measures up.

I figured this was why there was high participation in the optional lifting day this week.